Episodes

Dec 9

In this episode, we go back to 1980s Los Angeles, when civil wars in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Nicaragua sent hundreds of thousands of people north and helped turn LA into “Little Central America.” With professor and longtime participant Rubén Martínez as our guide—someone who lived through this moment firsthand—we follow the Sanctuary Movement as churches quietly, and then publicly, open their doors to refugees the U.S. refused to recognize. Sanctuary meant food and a place to sleep, but it also meant music, theater, poetry, and posters that challenged U.S. policy while helping people process their grief. From there, we step inside Echo Park United Methodist Church, where artist and performer Elia Arce and a circle of Central American poets, musicians, and organizers transform the basement into a cultural home. We also sit with Rev. David Farley, pastor emeritus of Echo Park United Methodist, who was there to witness it all. Upstairs, families try to stay invisible on classroom floors; downstairs, performances inspired by banned writers, songs from back home, and handmade banners turn fear and exile into shared story. Our last stop is the Getty Research Institute, where archivist Jasmine Magaña—a Salvadoran Angeleno herself—is helping build a new, expansive record of this era. Through in-depth oral histories with artists and organizers, she and her colleagues work to preserve stories that were never formally recorded but continue to shape Los Angeles today. Together, Rubén, Elia, and Jasmine show how the art around the Sanctuary Movement didn’t just document a moment—it held people together, reshaped Los Angeles, and still offers a blueprint for solidarity in our own tense times. Special thanks to Rubén Martínez, Elia Arce, and Jasmine Magaña. Deep gratitude to Lindsey Gant and Diana Carroll for their generous support in publishing and creating the web pages and Gina White for her work on rights and clearances.

Dec 2

Before the Supremes, before Berry Gordy, a Los Angeles record label run out of a garage was shaping the future of American music. Founded by Dootsie Williams in the early 1950s, Dootone Records became a hub of innovation—recording doo-wop, jazz, and the first Black comedy albums that would influence generations. But while the physical site of Dootone has nearly vanished, its intangible heritage—the voices, rhythms, and entrepreneurial spirit it carried—still reverberates through today’s culture. Through interviews with historian Robert Petersen and Getty preservationist Rita Cofield, this episode explores what it means to preserve sound as history: how a song like “Earth Angel” can outlast the walls that once contained it, and why the legacy of Dootone still matters today. Join Jaime as he retraces Dootone’s path with Robert Petersen and Rita Cofield—following the threads from a Central Avenue porch to playlists today and uncovering how keeping these sounds in circulation keeps Dootone’s legacy alive. Special thanks to Rita Cofield and Robert Petersen .

Nov 25

Jaime Roque follows a lost concert that almost never happened—and the homemade tape that kept it alive. The story begins in 1968 with a teenager who can’t get into jazz clubs and decides to bring Thelonious Monk to his public-school auditorium instead. Tickets lag in mostly-white Palo Alto, so he turns to nearby East Palo Alto and invites neighbors who actually know the music. On a rainy Sunday, a school janitor tunes the piano, sets up a reel-to-reel, and hits record. The concert fills. The night is calm. Then the tape disappears into a box for decades. From there, the episode tracks how a forgotten spool becomes a record the world can hear. Jaime visits the GRI at the Getty to see how fragile tapes are assessed, cleaned, and safely played back—how cleaning cloths, aging machines, and careful hands can turn a closet keepsake into public memory. And with a jazz scholar’s ear, he listens for why this set matters: the character of Monk’s touch that night and how a public-school stage becomes a time capsule. Jaime asks what it takes to keep culture from slipping away—and how one Sunday afternoon can carry forward, beautifully, half a century later. Special thanks to Danny Scher , Dr. Ron McCurdy , Jonathan Furnanski, and Thelonius Monk.

Nov 18

A community photo classroom opens the door to a different way of entering a museum. Inside Las Fotos Project—part classroom, part studio, all community—young photographers use images to say who they are. A new collaboration connects their voices to a landmark exhibition on migration, memory, and identity. The takeaway isn’t a style—it’s a method: meaning first, then the vessel. Back in the studio, that spark becomes an independent study. Students dig into family archives, kinship, place, and displacement—choosing forms that can hold what they need to say. Then we meet Wendy—a participant and student in the independent study—who builds a soft pink tent you crawl into, images overhead inviting you to look up and remember: her story, and maybe your own. The cohort carries their work into a neighborhood gallery, where strangers step closer and the vulnerability of being seen turns into applause. Follow Jaime as he traces how a museum show doesn’t end at closing time. It travels—through classrooms, archives, and city blocks—linking one Los Angeles from community space to museum. Special thanks to Maria Magdalena Campos-Pons, John Giurini, Las Fotos Project , Christian Morales, Arlene Mejorado , Diego Torres-Casso, and Wendy Cubillo . Check out the María Magdalena Campos-Pons exhibition page for related events and images.

Nov 11

Jaime Roque follows photographer George Rodriguez through two LAs at once—red carpets and street marches. Hollywood assignments put him beside movie stars and musicians; lunch breaks send him to East LA walkouts, the Chicano Moratorium, and UFW marches. One camera, two worlds. Jaime meets the people and places keeping that record alive. At the Getty Research Institute, curator Idurre Alonso opens thirty boxes—the first Chicano archive to enter the collection—and together they handle images that feel both historic and close to home. You see the craft: studio light brought to sidewalks, composition in the middle of a moving crowd, patience for the breath between chant and silence. In Santa Ana, photographer and educator William Camargo traces how George’s example shaped his own work—celebrity gigs by day, community documentation by night—and how a new generation is mapping their neighborhoods before the stories are erased. Join Jaime as he follows the images that built a city’s memory. Hear how archives, street corners, and studio lots weave one Los Angeles. See more of George’s photography on the Getty website (https://www.getty.edu/art/collection/person/105RWY). Special thanks to George Rodriguez, Idurre Alonso, William Camargo, Marcia Prentice, and Nicole Belle.

Nov 4

Jaime Roque follows the life of a familiar image across LA, beginning with the 2001 backlash to Alma López’s digital artwork Our Lady . What looked like a small museum fight opens a bigger story about who gets to remake a figure many people call sacred—and why that matters in everyday neighborhoods, not just in galleries. Jaime meets the people keeping the image alive in different ways. In downtown, Manuel treats the classic print like family and warns against changing it. In Boyle Heights, artist Nico Aviña rolls out a seven-foot plywood Guadalupe holding an eviction notice, a moving reminder of how families and their stories are being pushed out. Online, Oscar Rodríguez—known as @lavirgencita—photographs and maps murals before they’re painted over, building a simple record so the glow doesn’t disappear. Even at a ball game, a tiny pin on a cap feels like a small altar, proof that the image still travels with us. The episode also looks back to the figure’s early roots on Tepeyac Hill—a mix of Indigenous and Spanish worlds that helps explain why she carries both faith and culture. Through these voices and places, Jaime and his guests ask straight questions with real stakes: Who gets to redraw her? When is it devotion, and when is it pride or protest? Recurrent lands in that middle space—where street corners, shop walls, and phone screens can teach, comfort, and push back all at once—inviting listeners to see how a shared picture can hold a community together even as the city changes. This episode was inspired by the Visualizing the Virgin Mary exhibition . Special thanks to Alma Lopez , Nico Avina , Oscar Rodriguez , Melissa Casas, and Alejandro Jaramillo. Additional music provided by Splice. Rights and Clearances by Gina White.

Oct 21

In season two of ReCurrent: Stories about What We Gain by Keeping the Past Present , host Jaime Roque explores how culture builds community—how a camera passed from mentor to student, a long-lost record, or a familiar icon screen printed onto a jersey can bind people across time. In each episode, Jaime delves into the collaborations, memories, and reimaginings that shape who we are. He shows how something as simple as a photograph, a song, or a familiar icon can unlock a world of connection and meaning. Join Jaime as he uncovers the profound impact of keeping the past alive in the present—and discover what it opens for our future. Made in the wild—in the streets, archives, and neighborhoods where Getty stories are also found—ReCurrent shows how cultural heritage keeps us close while making room for who we’re becoming.

Oct 15, 2024

Check out the newest season of Recording Artists , hosted by actor, artist, and futurist Ahmed Best. Explore the Getty archives and learn about the innovative art-science group Experiments in Art and Technology (E.A.T.) in season three, out now. This first episode of the season features Robert Rauschenberg, weaving archival recordings of the artist with new interviews by MoMA chief curator at large and publisher Michelle Kuo and cognitive-studies scientist Xiaodong Lin-Siegler. Learn more about the episode and subscribe to the series. The Getty Patron Program is a proud sponsor of this podcast.

Sep 26, 2024

On this episode of ReCurrent , Jaime embarks on a journey to uncover the life and legacy of avant-garde composer Julius Eastman. Through conversations with those who knew him, Jaime explores how Eastman’s bold compositions challenged the boundaries of minimalist music, blending classical rigor with raw emotion and cultural defiance. Jaime dives into the compelling story of Julius Eastman, a Black, openly gay composer who revolutionized minimalist music in the 1970s and ’80s. With interviews from key figures in Eastman’s life, like his brother Gerry Eastman and music archivist Mary Jane Leach, Jaime pieces together Eastman’s complex legacy. Through this intimate portrait, season one of ReCurrent wraps up by revealing how art can serve as both a reflection of identity and a powerful means of breaking through boundaries. For a full list of credits and to find additional resources, visit Getty Podcasts .

Aug 29, 2024

On this episode of ReCurrent , Jaime visits the ancient and tranquil landscape of Wupatki National Monument in Arizona. Immersed in the natural beauty and rich history of this sacred site, Jaime reflects on his personal connection to the land, a place his late mother once cherished. His journey also delves into the deep cultural and spiritual significance of Wupatki for the ancestral Puebloan people. This episode highlights the ongoing efforts to protect Wupatki’s legacy, ensuring that the stories, traditions, and spiritual connections of this remarkable place continue to inspire future generations. For a full list of credits and to find additional information on Wupatki and the programs mentioned in the episode, visit Getty Podcasts .

Aug 15, 2024

In this episode of Recurrent , host and producer Jaime Roque delves into the rich cultural heritage of Pacoima's community barbershops, starting with StylesVille Barber Shop and Beauty Salon. Through conversations with Greg Faucett, a second-generation barber, Jaime uncovers how these spaces function as cultural hubs, preserving traditions and fostering deep community bonds. The episode not only explores the history of StylesVille but also reflects on Jaime’s own experiences with barbershops, from his high school years to adulthood, emphasizing their role as sanctuaries of history, culture, and personal connection. ReCurrent illustrates the vital role barbershops play in maintaining cultural continuity and supporting community identity. Find out more about the barbershops mentioned in the episode and see a full list of credits at Getty Podcasts .

Jun 27, 2024

On this episode of ReCurrent , Jaime Roque explores the music and instruments of the Florentine Codex , a 16th-century manuscript that recorded the life and culture of Mesoamerica at the time. A family home video floods host Jaime Roque with memories and emotions as he recounts how on that particular day, his love of music was sparked. This week, we're exploring the rich and resonant history of music from our past and how it continues to resonate with us today. Learn more about the Digital Florentine Codex . To see photos of the instruments discussed and to learn more about this episode, its guests, and more visit Getty Podcasts .

May 15, 2024

On this episode of Recurrent , Jaime Roque explores the hidden story of América Tropical , a mural painted by Mexican artist David Alfaro Siqueiros in 1932 on Olvera Street, Los Angeles. Commissioned to depict an idyllic tropical scene, Siqueiros instead delivered a politically charged image featuring a crucified indigenous figure overshadowed by an American eagle, sparking immediate controversy and eventual censorship. Jaime interviews local historians and community members, delving into the mural’s impact on cultural identity and its role in inspiring the Chicano mural movement. As Jaime walks through Boyle Heights, he discusses the effects of gentrification and mural whitewashing with local poet and activist Viva Padilla, emphasizing the ongoing struggle to preserve cultural heritage. Reflecting on how public art serves as both a canvas for resistance and a means of education, Jaime and his guests explore the resilience of cultural memory in urban spaces. This episode not only uncovers the story of a censored artwork but also invites listeners to consider the broader implications of art in shaping and maintaining community identity. Learn more at Getty Podcasts

May 14, 2024

In this inaugural episode of ReCurrent , host and producer Jaime Roque shares a heartfelt journey through his family’s history and the role of food in preserving cultural heritage. Jaime takes listeners into his mother Gabriela’s kitchen where she recounts her early days in Guerrero, Mexico, helping her mother sell homemade bread and tamales. The kitchen, filled with memories of four generations, is where Jaime’s childhood unfolded, enriched by family traditions and stories. Jaime also reflects on the deep impact his mother had on his life, especially during her last days, and his ongoing efforts to understand and carry forward the cultural heritage through both physical and spiritual legacies left by past generations. For more information on this episode and its guests, visit Getty Podcasts .

May 2, 2024

Starting from his own mom’s kitchen, Jaime ventures out to uncover the hidden tales that lie in everyday places—from lively murals in downtown Los Angeles that tell our collective history, to ancient sacred sites filled with the echoes of indigenous voices, to cozy barber shops teeming with stories passed down through generations. In each episode, Jaime delves into the personal struggles, triumphs, and deep-rooted traditions that define who we are. He shows us how even simple things like a family recipe can unlock a world of cultural insights. Join Jaime as he uncovers the profound impact of keeping the past alive in the present, and discover the treasures of our heritage. ReCurrent is available now wherever you get your podcasts. Find out more at Getty Podcasts .