About this episode
Matt opens the show in Dale Earnhardt Sr.’s iconic black-and-red jersey while Sully sports Dale Jr. The playful NASCAR nod lasts only long enough for a quick laugh before they park the racing talk and steer straight into folk-art territory. Their first stop is Eden, North Carolina, where Carrie Graves covered scrap paper with bright marker sketches for decades and her daughter Ellen Martin coaxed lions and angels from borrowed-kiln clay. Next they spotlight Benny Carter, a former metalworker whose twenty-thousand miniature cityscapes practically hum with yellow-cab traffic. The tour wraps with a bottle-cap snake, a split-oak basket whose missing splints ruin its payday, and a carved boxer whose price tag swings from pocket change to five figures depending on the auction block. What you’ll pick up along the way • How a $15 porch drawing from Carrie Graves can climb to four-figure territory • Why Ellen Martin fired her pottery in a borrowed kiln and how that affected her prices • The Benny Carter grind: twenty-thousand paintings, a 9/11 obsession, and serious market heat • Craft vs Folk vs Outsider: quick rules of thumb using a bottle-cap snake as the example • Condition basics: the missing-splint math that turns a $4,000 basket into $80 • Market environments: why a wood carving is $100 at Fishersville, $400 at Liberty, but $12,000 in New York Chapters 00:00 | Cold Open – Matt in a Dale Sr jersey, Sully in Dale Jr, checkered-flag talk 01:41 | Martinsville Nights – camping stories, case of beer, and a 100-mph pick 03:55 | Hidden Artists – intro to Carrie Graves and Ellen Martin 04:32 | Carrie Graves Drawings – marker on paper, pricing and scarcity 08:55 | Ellen Martin Pottery – borrowed kiln story, flowing-robe Lady Liberty 11:46 | Benny Carter Deep Dive – metal-shop layoffs to city-scape mania 15:02 | Repetition Pays – how twenty-thousand pieces create steady demand 22:50 | Yard-Sale Math – $10 tin paintings versus $10,000 auction bids 33:10 | Craft, Folk, Outsider – the bottle-cap snake debate 41:46 | Wood Carving Review – Matt compares two folk art carvings 48:04 | Market Environments – Liberty, Fishersville, New York 52:09 | Anonymous Tin Cows – when six-figure names hide in plain sight 55:16 | Basket Reality Check – $4,000 vs $80 when splints go missing 58:00 | Folk Art Flashcards – Mary T. Smith, Archie Byron, Lonnie Holley 1:05:44 | “Click It In” – training your eye with reference book binges 1:09:16 | Gym-Life Rant – strong backs and stronger bids 1:13:37 | Folk Art Rules – nothing is worth anything until someone pays 1:15:21 | Sign-Off – auction-chant warm-ups and next-episode teaser Folk art is more than carved wood or painted tin; it is road miles, quick math, and the nerve to flash cash when your gut says go. Whether you are a weekend yard-sale scout or plotting a folk-art empire, this episode hands you a roadmap, wrong turns and all. Keep riding shotgun by following @houseoffolkart on Instagram and TikTok, and check the next auction lineup at LedbetterAuctions.com. The hunt never ends; it just moves to the next county line.