Episode 40 | Kentucky Legend Carl McKenzie & The Gibsonville Hwy 64 Chair Maker Revealed

Matt and Kyle take a deep dive into Kentucky folk artist Carl McKenzie (1905-1998), examining his colorful cut-wood sculptures that inspired a generation of collectors. From the Daniel Boone Trading Post to Larry Hackley's legendary collection, they explore how McKenzie's simple two-by-four constructions with movable arms captured the essence of Kentucky mountain life. The episode takes a personal turn when Matt reveals his secret identity as the "Gibsonville Highway 61 Miniature Chair Maker," showcasing 24 Willie Massey-inspired chairs he created over three months before mysteriously losing the creative drive. The conversation explores the psychological challenges of folk art creation, from Charles Archer's inability to carve stone anymore to Matt's fear of trying to recreate his own work. They compare McKenzie's $150-300 pieces to Edgar Tolson's $17,000 carvings, discuss the difference between cut wood and carved wood, and examine why collectors need multiple pieces to build a case for an artist's legitimacy. Plus: Benny Carter banjo poetry about the House of Blues, football hit sticks as contemporary folk art, and a heated basket controversy that's got one collector sending angry midnight texts. What you'll learn: Carl McKenzie's evolution from retirement to prolific Kentucky folk artist Why cut-wood sculptures require different appreciation than carved pieces The psychological "bite" that drives folk artists and when it disappears How to distinguish 1940s paint from contemporary work The House of Blues connection to folk art and Dan Aykroyd's vision Why Edgar Tolson commands $17,000+ while McKenzie stays under $500 Follow @houseoffolkart and call the new folk art hotline if you have Carl McKenzie stories to share. Chapters: 00:00 | Carl McKenzie introduction and House of Folk Art t-shirts 02:25 | Kentucky Folk Art – Carl McKenzie's colorful cut-wood sculptures 04:39 | Cut vs Carved – understanding the difference in folk art construction 07:15 | Larry Hackley's Collection – seeing 80 McKenzie pieces together 09:24 | Artist Inspiration Sources – imagining McKenzie's creative process 14:22 | Discovery Stories – 1970s art dealers finding porch carvers 16:18 | Collection Building – why you need multiple pieces for legitimacy 19:01 | Edgar Tolson Comparison – $17,000 museum-quality vs $300 attainable 25:17 | The Creative Bite – how folk art inspiration strikes and disappears 31:09 | Living Artists Today – shake the right tree and find 20 artists 34:12 | Fearrington Folk Art Show– the next generation of self-taught artists 37:56 | Willie Massey Influence – miniature chairs and thick paint globs 41:51 | The Gibsonville Chair Maker Revealed – Matt's secret folk art identity 46:35 | Creative Struggles – why Matt stopped making chairs for 3 years 53:28 | Anonymous $30,000 Cane – high-relief carving and folk art pricing 56:58 | Football Hit Sticks – contemporary folk art meets youth sports 1:00:06 | Benny Carter Banjo Poetry – House of Blues tributes and misspellings 1:06:42 | House of Blues Tour – Dan Aykroyd's folk art restaurant empire 1:08:20 | Struggling Artist Reality – Benny's "last beer" dealer meeting The next Carl McKenzie is out there right now, selling $15 pieces and waiting to be discovered.