February 21, 1997: Contact & Disclosure - Steven M. Greer #124; Mel's Hole - Mel Waters

Dr. Steven M. Greer , emergency physician and founder of CSETI, discusses his ambitious project to achieve official disclosure of extraterrestrial contact. Greer outlines Project Starlight, an initiative designed to bring together 70-80 firsthand government witnesses including military personnel, intelligence workers, and aerospace employees with direct knowledge of ET programs. The conversation reveals Greer's high-level briefings with Congress members, CIA officials, and international leaders as he builds a coalition for public disclosure. Art explores Greer's systematic approach to gathering credible witnesses, emphasizing those with direct operational experience rather than secondhand accounts. The discussion covers Greer's meetings with astronauts, radar operators, retrieval teams, and facility workers involved in extraterrestrial technology projects. Later in the program, the famous Mel Waters returns to discuss his mysterious hole in Washington state, providing updates on the government's continued interest in the property. This episode combines serious disclosure advocacy with one of the most enduring mysteries in the show's history, demonstrating the range of unexplained phenomena that captivate listeners.