#39 Wayne Turmel on Remote and Hybrid Work: Would you return to office 5 days a week?

Would you return to office 5 days a week? Author of The Long Distance Leader , Wayne Turmel and I dive into a crucial topic: long-distance leadership in an era where communication technology is rapidly evolving for both workers and leaders. Yes, you read that right—long-distance leadership , not long-distance relationships. Just like with any relationship, maintaining, nurturing, and fixing long-distance leadership is far from straightforward. This conversation couldn’t be more timely. When we recorded this episode, Amazon’s CEO had just announced their RTO (Return to Office) policy for 2025, and so far, the media narrative surrounding it hasn’t been exactly positive. How can Wayne and his team provide solutions as remote and hybrid work models continue to change shape? Episode Breakdown: 2:30—From performing on stage to helping leaders perform at work 4:54—Long-Distance Leadership: More Than Just a Long-Distance Relationship 8:06—From Pagers to Zoom: How Tech’s Evolution Transformed the Way We Lead and Manage Teams 13:51—New Challenges, New Solutions: What’s Different in the 2024 Edition Since the 2018 Release? ( Book Link ) 25:16—Amazon’s 2025 RTO Shuffle: How to Make the Office Comeback a Win for All Connect with us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Wayne Turmel ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries --Chief Change Officer-- Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself. Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep, Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts. EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist. 20 Million+ All-Time Downloads. 80+ Countries Reached Daily. Global Top 1% Podcast. Top 5 US Business. Top 1 US Careers. >>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<