Brené with Dr. Sarah Lewis on The Rise, the Creative Process and the Difference Between Mastery and Success

Join me for a conversation with Dr. Sarah Lewis in Part 1 of a two-part series on her book, The Rise: Creativity, the Gift of Failure, and the Search for Mastery . We talk about why the word failure doesn’t quite capture the often-transformative experience of falling and beginning again, the difference between success and mastery, and the power of setting audacious goals that are right outside our grasp. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices