The MSing Link: Bridging Science, Mindset, and Movement with Dr. Gretchen Hawley

On this powerful episode of What Are You Made Of? , Mike “C-Roc” sits down with Dr. Gretchen Hawley, physical therapist, multiple sclerosis (MS) specialist, and host of The MSing Link podcast. Dr. Gretchen shares how her deep-rooted resilience—fueled by a mindset that sees every obstacle as a learning opportunity—has shaped both her personal and professional life. She opens up about the unexpected path that led her into MS care, starting with two patients whose unique and complex cases sparked her obsession with finding better solutions. Her curiosity and drive eventually led her to earn an MS specialist certification, launch a podcast, and dedicate her career to supporting those living with the disease. Throughout the conversation, Dr. Gretchen and Mike "C-Roc" explore the many faces of MS, from the wide-ranging symptoms to the latest in treatment options like vibration therapy, electrical stimulation, and even stem cell research. She also breaks down the impact of mindset, nutrition, movement, and social connection on managing MS and living well. The two discuss how biohacking and longevity practices are beginning to intersect with chronic illness care, and how Dr. Gretchen is bringing those conversations into the MS world. This episode is a must-listen for anyone living with MS, caring for someone who is, or simply curious about what it means to face adversity with clarity, compassion, and unwavering determination. Website-https://www.drgretchenhawley.com/ Social Media Links/Handles- https://www.facebook.com/DrGretchenPT https://www.instagram.com/doctor.gretchen/ https://www.youtube.com/c/DoctorGretchenHawley