About this episode
The staggering cost of Donald Trump's own words. More than $83 million for years of defaming the writer E. Jean Carroll, even after a jury found that he sexually abused her. Is this enough to make it stop? Plus, two insiders give Kaitlan their takes on the case, one person from the courtroom, along with the person who first told E. Jean Carroll to consider suing the former president. And, details of the chance run-in at a party that got this case going. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices