Episodes

Dec 11

This week on The Next Aid Station , we break down the matchups trail running has been waiting for: Courtney DeWalter vs. Katie Schide and Caleb Olson vs. Tom Evans . With Hardrock and Western States fields taking shape, the stage is set for some of the most competitive racing the sport has ever seen. We also get into the upcoming lotteries, Utah’s new 200-miler, Christian Allen’s breakout road performance, the TRE scheduling fiasco, and the latest trail running film debates. From bold hot takes to real analysis, this episode dives into every corner of the sport — the drama, the rivalries, and the races that will define 2025. In this episode: • Courtney vs Katie: early Hardrock predictions • Caleb vs Tom: Western States showdown potential • Why Western is suddenly stacked again • Christian Allen’s 2:09 marathon and mountain crossover • Utah announces a 200-mile race • Mike McKnight gets into Hardrock • Chuckanut 50K planning • Trail running film of the year debates • College football chaos (and how we’d fix it) • Scott’s Hurt 100 training updates Follow the show, share it with a friend, and join us next week as we reveal our official Ultra Runner of the Year picks.

Nov 20

This week on The Next Aid Station, Jake & MIck break down one of the most stacked episodes of the season — from Michael Greer’s 96-hour, 100,000 ft fundraiser, to the wildest NBA All-Star format yet, to a full Siskel & Ebert-style review of every major trail running documentary of 2024. Plus: the spiciest trail drama of the year, our picks for JFK 50, and why Western States / Hardrock lottery week is about to get VERY interesting. In this episode:• Michael Greer finishes 225 miles with 100K ft climbing• Community fundraiser for Aaron Jensen & Kelly West• NBA All-Star chaos: USA vs USA vs World• The “Black vs White All-Star Game” bit goes completely off-rails• Guinness World Record: 1,516 threes in one hour?!• Abby Hall + Kilian Jornet confirm return to Western States 2026• FULL Trail Running Film of the Year breakdown• The Finisher, The Chase, King of Moab, Nothing to Lose & more• Major trail drama of the year (McAleenan, USATF, Zach Miller, Arizona Monster)• JFK 50 predictions• Western States & Hardrock lottery hype• Plans for Austin, TRE, Tesla tour, and a quick show break ⸻🎧 Listen on Spotify & Apple Podcastshttps://open.spotify.com/show/thenextaidstation 📺 Subscribe on YouTubeDrop your favorite documentary of the year & your JFK 50 picks ↓ #TrailRunning #UltraRunning #Podcast #WesternStates #Leadville #UTMB #MichaelGreer #BarkleyMarathons #TrailDrama #RunningDocumentaries #JFK50

Nov 12

This week on The Next Aid Station, Jake & Mick dive into the strangest mix of trail running news, viral moments, and hot takes you didn’t know you needed. From Trump pardoning a trail runner to HOA rage and NBA rants, it’s equal parts ridiculous and insightful — exactly what you expect when the coffee hits before recording. In this episode: 00:00 – Kicking off with chaos (and a quick Google search)01:00 – Jake’s “Glizzy Halloween” goes viral04:00 – NBA rant: Zion, Ja, and wasted potential09:30 – Trump pardons a trail runner?!13:50 – The 99% conviction rate rant21:20 – HOA guy named Bart gets roasted24:00 – Mask wars at 30,000 feet31:10 – Western States & Hardrock lottery talk37:40 – Barkley Marathon secrets40:10 – Cross-country shoutout in Spokane42:20 – Caleb Olson’s GT100 win47:00 – Stage races: fun or gimmick?49:30 – Who’s the real UROY?53:50 – Movie critics, Siskel & Ebert roast57:20 – Tunnel Hill records & Camille Herron debate1:04:20 – Jake vs. Scott: alternate course race idea1:07:20 – YouTube comments & Rachel vs. Tara1:20:20 – Camille’s “Men’s Meat x Women’s Race” collab1:23:20 – Sponsors, growth, and what’s next 📺 Subscribe on YouTubeDrop your hot take in the comments & hit the bell — it helps us more than you think.

Nov 5

She’s redefining what it means to be an ultrarunner. Rachel Entrekin — physical therapist, 200-mile champion, and one of the fastest-rising names in trail running — joins The Next Aid Station for a raw, unfiltered deep dive into the evolution of the sport, the power of storytelling, and what it really takes to win at the edge of human endurance.From racing at Mammoth and Cocodona to debating UTMB’s dominance, Rachel opens up about everything: the politics of sponsorship, how livestreams are reshaping ultrarunning, and what it feels like to be called the “Queen of 200s.” Whether you’re a diehard fan or training for your first ultra, this is one of the most honest conversations you’ll hear about the sport’s future. Timestamps: ⸻00:00 – Intro: The Men’s Meet x Women’s Race Collab01:00 – Meet Rachel Entrekin: The 200-Mile Queen Arrives03:00 – Running 19 Miles at 7:30 Pace (and Loving It?)05:00 – Beer, Basketball & Blue Moon Confessions07:00 – Rachel on Caitlin Clark & Why Competition Fuels Her08:30 – Can Rachel Beat Courtney Dauwalter? Let’s Talk About It10:30 – DNFs, Redemption & The Drive to Race Again12:00 – Who Gets to Decide What Races Matter?14:00 – Runners vs. Brands: Taking Back the Power16:00 – Why Live Streams Are Changing the Sport18:00 – Making Ultrarunning More Professional — Without Losing Its Soul20:00 – UTMB Is Coming to Utah: What It Means for Local Races23:00 – Are 200-Milers the Future of the Sport?25:00 – How Rachel & Jamil Are Changing Ultrarunning Forever27:00 – The Marketing Power of 200-Milers (and Why Brands Don’t Get It)30:00 – Why Visibility Matters More Than Winning33:00 – Do Prize Purses Even Matter? (Spoiler: No)35:00 – Being Labeled the “200-Mile Specialist” — and Fighting That Box37:00 – Rachel’s Big Goals: Hardrock, UTMB & Beyond40:00 – The Problem With How Athletes Are Paid43:00 – Storytelling Over Podiums: The Real Value of an Athlete46:00 – Branding, Sponsorships & What Runners Get Wrong Online48:00 – How Rachel Nearly Caught Jimmy Elam at Mammoth50:00 – Learning to “Make Moves” — Racing Smarter, Not Harder53:00 – Race Plans, Hardrock Dreams & UTMB Hopes57:00 – How Rachel Plans to Prove She Belongs Among the Best59:00 – Rachel on Inspiring Young Runners (and Her Favorite Fan Moment)01:01:00 – Why Accessibility Matters: Making Elites Relatable01:03:00 – Javelina Predictions: Who She’s Betting On01:06:00 – Rachel’s Next Chapter: From Racing to Commentating01:08:00 – Closing Thoughts: The Future of Ultra Running with Rachel Entrekin 📹 Subscribe for more unfiltered ultrarunning stories:@thenextaidstation

Oct 29

It finally happened — Mick toed the line at Javelina Jundred and brought home his first 100-mile belt buckle. But it didn’t come easy. From a brutal first lap in a black T-shirt and handheld bottle, to puking in the desert and pounding ginger ale to survive, this is a full breakdown of what happens when your body and mind hit the wall. Jake and Mick dive into every lap of the legendary Javelina 100 , unpacking the chaos, the lessons, and the moments that made this one unforgettable. From race-day mistakes and heat-management disasters to the ginger-ale miracle that turned it all around, this episode captures the full rollercoaster of running 100 miles in the Arizona desert. They also cover what’s next: the off-season training block, body-composition surprises, HYROX hot takes, and the long road to Cocodona 250 . Whether you’re training for your first ultra or just love hearing what it really takes to earn a buckle, this one’s packed with grit, humor, and honesty. What You’ll Hear In This Episode: • The full Javelina 100-mile recap — heat, blisters, and redemption • The fueling breakdown (why ginger ale beats water ) • Lessons learned from the crew tent and aid-station chaos • How to fix mid-race nausea when your stomach shuts down • Real talk on pacing, mindset, and post-race recovery • Community moments, haters, and the rise of The Next Aid Station • Winter training goals: F45, strength, and staying sharp for Cocodona • Reflections on Camille’s episode, kindness, and online culture • Behind-the-scenes: the one-bed hotel story and merch mayhem About The Show The Next Aid Station is the ultrarunning podcast that goes beyond splits and shoe talk — hosted by Jake Kilgore and Mick Garrison , it’s where race stories meet real life. Each week, we dive deep into the highs, lows, and absurd moments that make the endurance world what it is. Follow & Support • Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts (Spotify, Apple, YouTube, etc.) • Follow on Instagram: @thenextaidstation • Grab official merch (MEN’S MEAT, Offended Guy, Camel Toe) at [shop link] • Leave a rating and share this episode with a training partner or crew chief Keywords for SEO / Discovery: Javelina 100, Javelina Jundred, ultrarunning podcast, 100 mile race recap, first 100 miler story, ultramarathon training, desert running tips, hydration in ultras, ginger ale ultrarunning, fueling strategy, nausea during ultramarathon, Aravaipa Running, Western States Golden Ticket, HYROX training, endurance athlete podcast, Cocodona 250, F45 endurance, The Next Aid Station, Jake Kilgore, Mick Garrison

Oct 25

She’s a world record holder, a whistleblower, and the queen of Javelina Jundred . In this raw and hilarious conversation, Camille Herron opens up about her world records, the truth behind the USATF controversy, and how she’s using her voice to advocate for inclusion in ultrarunning. From tacos and super shoes to lawsuits and laughter, this is one of the most unfiltered episodes yet. Recorded in Scottsdale before Javelina Jundred, Jake, Mick, and Scott sit down with ultrarunning icon Camille Herron — the woman who’s redefined endurance running. Camille breaks down how she’s still setting records in her 40s, her neurodivergent journey with autism and ADHD, and the real story behind her recent media controversies. Plus, she talks Taco Bell, training, fairness in sport, and why she can absolutely laugh at the “Steely Toughness” memes. Timestamps: 00:00 – Welcome Back to The Next Aid Station 00:18 – Introducing the Queen of Javelina: Camille Herron 01:04 – Driving Chaos: Camille’s Journey to Scottsdale 01:26 – Setting World Records: The Spark that Drives Her 02:10 – From 50 Miles to 6 Days: Camille’s Record-Breaking Range 03:15 – Super Shoes & Longevity in Running 04:00 – Trails vs Roads: Why Camille Loves to Go Fast 04:50 – “What’s a Javelina?” — Camille’s Wild Desert Encounters 06:00 – Running with 1,500 People: The Javelina Party Vibe 07:00 – Taco Bell, Tacos, and World Records 08:00 – Taco Bell Sends Camille a $10 Gift Card (and a Lifetime of Laughs) 09:00 – Homemade Tacos & the Men’s Meat Shirt Connection 09:45 – Would Camille Pace a Lap at Javelina? 10:10 – Running 300 Miles and Carrying Your Own… What?! 10:57 – When Nature Calls: Camille’s Funniest Marathon Stories 11:19 – The Super Shoe Revolution Explained 13:10 – Running Boston After the Bombing: A Powerful Moment 14:00 – Rules, Fairness & Integrity: Camille’s View on Governing Bodies 16:20 – Inside the Record Controversy: When a Course Isn’t “Certified Enough” 18:00 – Calibration, Clocks, and Controversy — How Tiny Errors Cost Big 20:00 – The Hidden Bureaucracy Behind Every World Record 22:00 – “World Best” vs. “World Record” — What’s the Difference? 23:20 – How Camille Changed the Rules for Drug Testing in Ultras 24:10 – How Many World Records Does Camille Actually Hold? 25:15 – Who Could Break Her Javelina Record? 26:00 – How She Could Shave Minutes Off Her 14:03 Course Record 27:15 – The Women Who Might Be Next: Predictions for Javelina 2024 29:00 – Cheering While Racing — Why Camille Loses Her Voice 30:20 – Neurodivergence, Autism & ADHD in the Ultra World 33:00 – Breaking Down the USA Track & Field Controversy 35:00 – The Fight for Accommodations & Inclusion in Athletics 38:00 – Communication Breakdown: How It All Went Wrong with USATF 42:00 – Following Legal Advice & Protecting Herself from Misrepresentation 45:00 – What She Would (and Wouldn’t) Do Differently 47:10 – Why Inclusivity in Running Still Has a Long Way to Go 52:00 – Trail vs Road Running: Finding Calm in Chaos 55:00 – How Her Autism Diagnosis Changed Everything 57:00 – The Greatest Female Ultrarunners of All Time 59:00 – Is Camille in the Top 3? (Spoiler: Yes.) 1:01:00 – Who Inspires Camille: Ruth Croft, Courtney, Katie & More 1:03:00 – Wikipedia, Whistleblowing, and the Truth Behind the “Steely Toughness” Story 1:06:00 – Why Camille Reported Rule Violations in Ultra Running 1:07:00 – Justice Sensitivity & Integrity in Sport 1:08:00 – The Wikipedia “Scandal”: Her Side of the Story 1:10:00 – Where “Steely Toughness” Really Came From 1:13:00 – The Real Story Behind the Edits & The Lawsuit 1:16:00 – Clearing the Air: “It Was Never Me — It Was My Husband” 1:17:00 – Halloween Costumes, Humor & Good Vibes 1:20:00 – The Story Behind “Men’s Meat” and Internet Outrage 1:23:00 – Camille’s Reaction to the Men’s Meat Shirt (She Loves It) 1:24:00 – Laughing It Off: Camille’s Humor Shines 1:25:00 – Closing Thoughts with The Queen of Javelina

Oct 25

Recorded in Scottsdale, AZ just before Javelina Jundred, Jake and Mick sit down with Killian to talk about life after conquering Moab, Bigfoot, and Tahoe — and how he’s handling his sudden rise in the ultrarunning world. They dive deep into fueling, mindset, social media growth, and what it takes to stay disciplined when running 200+ miles at a time. Plus, the guys share some hilarious off-trail stories (including the legendary “One Guy, Four Dogs” moment) Timestamps: 00:00 – Welcome to Scottsdale! Jake, Mick & Killian Kick Things Off 00:45 – “It’s Burning Man for Runners” — The Wild Vibe at Javelina Jundred 02:05 – Pre-Race Nerves, Aid Stations, and the Halloween Party Atmosphere 03:40 – Killian’s Race Goals & Coaching Athletes 04:45 – Fueling for 200-Milers: How Many Carbs Is Enough? 06:25 – Fireball Shots, Kombucha, and Pumpkin Spice: The Crew Debates Nutrition 08:10 – The “Injury” That’s Not an Injury: Killian’s Knee Tape Ritual 09:20 – From Unknown to Trail Superstar — How Moab Changed Everything 10:30 – How Killian Went Viral After Moab 240 (and What He Did Right) 12:00 – Fame, Privacy & Sponsorships — Handling the Spotlight After Moab 13:10 – Ultra Running Business Talk: Agents, Contracts, and Shoe Deals 15:00 – Should 200-Milers Count for Ultrarunner of the Year? The Debate 18:00 – What 200 Miles Really Feels Like (and Why It’s Worth It) 20:30 – Blisters, Hallucinations & Pain at Mile 200 — Moab 240 Stories 22:10 – Running With Gratitude: Why It’s All Worth It 23:00 – Motivation vs. Discipline: What Drives Elite Ultrarunners 24:20 – Avoiding Burnout & Building the Perfect Training Routine 26:10 – “It’s Just a 50” — Why Every Distance Deserves Respect 27:45 – Life After the Triple Crown: Balance, Rest & French Fries 29:00 – The Infamous “Four Guys, Four Dogs” Story (Hilarious) 33:00 – Keeping It Classy… Kinda — Laughter & Chaos in the Studio 36:30 – Coca-Dona Predictions: Who Can Beat Killian? 38:40 – Why Rachel’s One of the Best in the World (and Nobody’s Talking About It) 40:50 – What’s Next: Killian’s 2025 Goals & The Colorado Trail Dream 42:05 – San Juan Mountains Training Plans & Wrap-Up 📺 Watch the full video and drop a comment: What’s the craziest thing you’ve ever done during a race?

Oct 22

🎙 It’s Belt Buckle Week! Jake and Mick are fired up for the javelina 100, breaking down race strategy, fantasy picks, and the wildest ultrarunning news of the week. From UTMB coming to Utah to Camille Herron’s legal showdown, this episode is packed with controversy, comedy, and insider insight into the trail running world. 🔥 Highlights: • UTMB rumored to launch a 100-miler in Utah • The Moab 240 drama with Brody Chisholm & Candice Burt • Camille Herron’s autism & USATF controversy • Manuela's 200-mile record that no one’s talking about • Fantasy Free Trail picks for Havalina 100 (Golden Ticket predictions!) • Mick’s pre-race prep & Jake’s live YouTube stream plans🎯 Keywords: UTMB Utah 2025, Moab 240 controversy, Camille Herron USATF, Havalina 100 predictions, ultrarunning podcast, trail running news, The Next Aid Station, Killian Korth, David Roche, Sage Canaday, Destination Trails drama, Western States qualifiers 👟 Subscribe for more weekly episodes diving into the culture, chaos, and camaraderie of ultrarunning.🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & everywhere else. 📲 Follow @thenextaidstation for clips, race recaps & behind-the-scenes content.

Oct 15

This episode has everything — elite racing, wild controversy, and one of the rawest interviews we’ve ever done.Trail-runner Kilian Korth joins us fresh off his Moab 240 victory to unpack his Triple Crown sweep, insane weather, and how he handled 28 miles of mud on destroyed feet. Jake Kilgore relives his Kodiak 100 age category win that locked a direct UTMB entry, and the guys tackle the internet drama over their now-infamous “Here for the Men’s Meet” shirt.If you love trail running, dark humor, and real conversations about racing, community, and mindset — this is your episode. Timestamps:00:00 – The “Here for the Men’s Meet” ControversyJake & Mick open with the viral shirt backlash — humor, misunderstanding, and how sarcasm dies on Instagram.03:20 – Welcome Back to The Next Aid StationThe hosts kick off another Tuesday episode and dive straight into recovery talk and sore-quads confessions.07:00 – The Moab 240 & Triple Crown BreakdownSetting the stage: Kilian Korth’s win, the brutal conditions, and what makes Moab different from every other 200-miler.08:10 – LIVE Call with Kilian KorthFresh off his Moab 240 victory, Kilian joins the show to unpack mud, misery, and mindset in his hardest race ever.14:00 – The Brody Leven ControversyWas he pulled too early? Kilian reacts to the drama at mile 54 and gives his take on race-director decisions.17:00 – Racing Through the Mud & Mental BattlesKilian’s raw account of the rain, exhaustion, and the mental fight that defined his Triple Crown sweep.20:00 – Aid-Station Strategy & Sleep ScienceHow Kilian managed foot pain, minimal rest, and elite-level efficiency — plus why a good crew can change everything.22:00 – What’s Next for Kilian KorthWhy he’s taking an off-season and processing the spotlight after the biggest win of his career.24:00 – Post-Interview ReactionsJake, Mick & Scott debrief the conversation, reveal behind-the-scenes footage, and tease Kilian’s documentary.30:00 – Trail Running News Round-UpCourtney Dauwalter’s road-marathon debut, Truett’s 2:25 at St. George, Connor Mantz’s new American record — full breakdown.38:00 – The “Here for the Men’s Meet” BacklashWhy some people lost their minds over a joke tee, the meaning behind it, and how the guys plan to win skeptics over.47:00 – Kodiak 100 Recap 🏔️Jake’s full race story: training, strategy, near-perfect execution, and taking the 45-49 age-group crown (again).1:03:00 – Critical Gear Decisions That Won the RacePoles or no poles? Bladder or flasks? The tiny choices that made hours of difference.1:33:00 – Post-Race Reflection & UTMB Direct EntryEarning a UTMB spot, what it really means, and the plan heading into 2026.1:45:00 – Off-Season, Goals & Closing BanterJake on recovery mode, Mick’s Javelina prep, and the team’s next adventures.

Oct 10

🏆 “He ran through a storm — and came out a champion.”When freezing rain, 40 mph wind, and mud hit DC Peaks 50, Eli White didn’t just survive — he thrived. The Salt Lake Running Company athlete takes us behind the scenes of his shocking 2025 victory, sharing how he trained, fueled, and battled for the win on one of the toughest ultramarathon days ever.In this episode of The Next Aid Station, hosts Jake Kilgore and Mick “Lucky Pierre” dive deep into Eli’s mindset, gear choices, and wildest race moments — including how a mid-race fall, caffeine boost, and strategic moves sealed his win.Whether you’re training for your first ultra or chasing a 100-mile PR, this episode is a masterclass in racing smart under pressure.Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome & Winner IntroductionEli White joins the pod fresh off his DC Peaks 50 victory — and “People’s Choice” favorite.01:00 – Betting on the Podium: Who Called It Right?The hosts break down their pre-race picks and how the stormy day reshaped the results.02:30 – Eli’s Journey: From Biology Professor to Running ProHow Eli went from teaching science to managing Salt Lake Running Company — and why it changed his life.04:45 – Why He Signed Up Last Minute for DC Peaks 50What pushed Eli to finally register just two weeks before race day.06:15 – Race Day Chaos: The Storm, the Course, and Staying AliveHow he planned his splits in the middle of unpredictable weather.08:00 – The Turning Point: When Eli Took the LeadA deep dive into his mid-race battle with Matt — and how a caffeine gel and rain jacket swap changed everything.12:20 – The Chase: Passing Matt and Building the GapEli explains exactly where and how he made his move through North Canyon’s smooth trails.15:10 – The Muddy Showdown at SummerwoodThe out-and-back moment that sealed the win — and what it’s like seeing your competition mid-race.18:00 – The Wild Finish Line CelebrationInside Eli’s “home run” finish and what made this stormy race so unforgettable.19:10 – Race Weekend Decisions: Saturday or Sunday?Eli breaks down how runners voted and why he preferred running through the rain.21:30 – Battling the Weather: Wind, Rain, and Survival ModeRunning through freezing wind, soaked trails, and mental toughness at its peak.25:00 – Shoe Talk: What Carried Him to VictoryThe surprising shoe choice that helped him win — and a mini gear chat with Jake & Mick.29:00 – Inside the Salt Lake “JV Team”Meet the crew behind Utah’s rising trail runners — and the inside jokes that power them.30:00 – Bear 100: Redemption Story in the MakingEli’s unfinished business at Bear 100 and how he plans to come back stronger.33:00 – Taper Tips & Pre-Race MindsetEli’s philosophy on tapering, training, and keeping your legs fresh.39:00 – Future Goals & Marathon SpeedFrom a 2:31 marathon to mountain ultras — what’s next for Eli White.41:00 – Closing Thoughts: Lessons from the StormThe mindset, preparation, and grit behind one of the gnarliest DC Peaks finishes ever.

Oct 9

🏔️ “I didn’t even know I won until I sat down.”In this episode of The Next Aid Station, we sit down with Ashley Moline, the women’s DC Peaks 50 champion, to relive the storm, mud, lightning, and chaos that defined this year’s race.Ashley shares how she outlasted freezing rain, thunder, and slippery descents to not only finish — but beat her time from last year and take 1st place overall female. From mental grit to gear hacks, this episode dives deep into what it takes to stay composed (and warm) when everything around you is falling apart.Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome to the Next Aid StationMeet Wisconsin native and DC Peaks 50 winner, Ashley Moline01:00 – Cold Hands, Warm Heart (and a Bear Tag?)Ashley’s family crew, hand warmers, and the hilarious “bear tag” misunderstanding02:10 – Beating Her Time Despite a StormHow Ashley ran faster than last year — even with a new, wetter course03:30 – Running Through Shin-Deep MudAt what point do you stop avoiding puddles? (Hint: 35 miles in)05:10 – Staying Warm While Everyone Else FrozeHand warmers, glove swaps, and the gear choices that saved her race08:00 – “Wait… I’m in First?”Ashley realizes mid-race she might actually be winning11:00 – Crossing the Finish Line Without Knowing She WonHer shock at finding out she took first place overall female14:15 – Why She Had to FinishThe powerful mental drive behind her “A race” of the year15:40 – Choosing to Race in the StormAshley picked Saturday — and embraced the chaos16:45 – From 55K to 50 Miles to… 100?Will she take on the Bear 100 next?20:00 – How Coaching Changed Her RunningTraining smarter (not harder) and becoming a coach herself24:00 – From Wisconsin to UtahWhy she stayed after PT school and found her mountain home25:40 – Behind the Scenes of the DC Peaks StormRace directors discuss reroutes, safety calls, and chaos management27:00 – Lightning, Thunder & Laughing Through ItWhat it’s like running under a storm that lights up the whole sky31:00 – How She’d Improve the RaceHer feedback on course markings and the volunteer experience32:00 – Why the Volunteers Deserve a MedalShoutout to the real heroes who stood in the cold for hours34:00 – Will the Race Date Move Next Year?The team debates running before or after Bear 10041:30 – What’s Next for Ashley MolineBear 100, recovery, and her next mountain adventureWhat you’ll hear: • How Ashley conquered the storm everyone feared • The mental shift from third place to first overall • Her training and coaching philosophy for ultrarunners • Hilarious race-day stories (bear tags, lightning, and mud baths) • Inside look at how the DC Peaks team managed chaos mid-stormIf you’re an ultrarunner, endurance athlete, or just love stories of grit, humor, and community — this one’s for you.💬 Drop a comment with your favorite moment or storm story.📲 Subscribe for more epic race recaps & ultrarunning interviews.🎧 Listen to The Next Aid Station on Spotify & Apple Podcasts.Keywords:DC Peaks 50, ultramarathon, trail running podcast, storm race, women’s ultrarunning, DC Peaks recap, Ashley Moline, ultra runner interview, endurance athlete mindset, Bear 100 training

Oct 8

The 2025 DC Peaks 50 was one for the history books — the wettest race day in Utah since 1901.Jake and Mick break down the chaos, heartbreak, and triumph from the most brutal DC Peaks ever. From record-breaking rain to hypothermic runners, course controversies, and behind-the-scenes decisions that saved the race — this episode is a raw, hilarious, and brutally honest look inside what really happens when nature decides to fight back.🌧️ Topics include: • Record-setting rain & race-day chaos • The DNF and aid station controversy • Emotional behind-the-scenes race directing • What went wrong, what went right, and what’s changing next year • How the community came together through absolute madnessTIMESTAMPS:00:00 – The Storm of the Century: DC Peaks Recap Begins01:05 – “I’d rather run it than race direct” – The chaos behind the scenes03:00 – Record-breaking rain: The wettest day in Salt Lake since 190104:08 – Finally! The best-marked course ever (after last year’s bib disaster)05:14 – Runners getting lost, DNF stories, and hypothermic drops06:16 – Stats that shocked everyone: Record signups & finish rates08:07 – Would anyone have finished a 100-miler in that weather?09:34 – Battle cries in the storm: “Bring it!” moments on course10:10 – Scott’s DNF story: freezing, shaking, and choosing to call it12:09 – Aid station chaos and family takeover at Zig Zag13:33 – Parking nightmares and single-lane gridlock stories15:16 – Crew access debate: Should races go full UTMB-style?17:56 – Keeping the community vibe alive—without the red tape20:01 – Weather gone wild: 2025 joins the list of ultra races from hell22:08 – Elite interviews coming soon (Eli White & Ashley Molina)23:41 – Course controversy: Runners skipping aid stations26:06 – The DQ debate: When skipping an aid station meets survival mode30:15 – Chaos at the finish line: hypothermia, missed podium photos, and soup triage35:28 – The “Master Debate”: Should we have moved race day to Sunday?37:09 – Why the race stayed Saturday—and why that was the right call40:15 – The alternate course that humbled everyone42:02 – The angry runner dilemma: “This isn’t what I signed up for!”43:20 – Ultra culture check: Adapting when things go wrong44:00 – Refunds, reroutes, and why race directing doesn’t pay45:29 – What people don’t understand about small races46:07 – Why the OG course would’ve been dangerous48:12 – Volunteers, lightning, and near whiteout conditions49:36 – The new idea: Spring DC Peaks on the alternate route51:29 – Could we add a second race every year?55:40 – Top 10 rapid-fire questions for 2025 recap56:24 – The biggest improvement from last year’s race58:57 – Best decisions, worst calls, and mid-race audibles1:04:10 – Hand warmers, towels, and hypothermia lessons learned1:09:04 – Biggest disappointments: Entitled runners & weather whiners1:13:01 – Should DC Peaks move to September? The great debate1:17:00 – Owning October: Why the first weekend is part of the brand1:21:00 – The Barkley comparison: Loving the suffering (or not)1:25:03 – If we could do it over again…1:29:59 – The oldest finisher: The toughest woman on the mountain1:31:29 – Changes for 2026: Gear checks, rules, and new course ideas1:34:13 – Could DC Peaks add a marathon or a 100-miler?1:38:18 – Volunteers who went above and beyond1:41:15 – Final thoughts: gratitude, recovery, and what’s next👇 Subscribe for more raw trail stories, ultra recaps, and behind-the-scenes looks into the sport.#trailrunning #ultrarunning #DCPeaks50 #trailracing #runningpodcast #ultramarathon #mountainrunning #racefail #raceprep #rainraces #runcommunity

Oct 2

In this episode, Jake and Mick sit down with Sarah Humble, fresh off her wins at the White Pine 50 and Bear 100. Sarah shares her journey from high school cross-country to dominating ultramarathons, how quitting her job led to a breakthrough summer of training in Europe, and what it really takes to race at the highest level.We also dive into: • The Appalachian Trail FKT controversy and fairness in records • Katie Schide vs. Courtney Dauwalter – who’s the true GOAT? • Mammoth 200 recap, Fantasy Trail Running, and Jim Walmsley’s dominance • DC Peaks 50 predictions (men’s and women’s race previews!) • Sarah’s mindset and strategy that led to her 21-hour Bear 100 win • What’s next: preparing for the Black Canyon 100K🔥 Whether you’re a trail runner, ultrarunning fan, or just love stories of grit and endurance, this episode delivers hot takes, deep insights, and plenty of laughs.TIMESTAMPS:00:00 – Opening Banter & Predictions00:36 – Introducing Sarah Humble: White Pine & Bear 100 Champion02:09 – Stories from Racing Against Sarah04:07 – Dropping Poles & Racing Strategy05:22 – Sarah Quits Job for Running + Summer in Europe07:07 – Swiss Canyon Trail & Competing Internationally07:53 – High School Running Background & Lessons Learned09:18 – From Average 5K to Ultramarathon Beast11:17 – Pre-Race Talk: Dixie Pigs, Mammoth, & Bear 10012:15 – Appalachian Trail FKT Controversy14:21 – Debating Trans Inclusion in FKTs18:49 – Sarah’s 21-Hour Bear 100 Victory Story21:04 – Hot Takes on Records & Recognition23:17 – Katie Schide vs. Courtney Dauwalter – Who’s the GOAT?25:36 – Kilian Jornet, Jim Walmsley & Trail Running Legends27:20 – Fantasy Trail Running & Mammoth 200 Results33:13 – Behind the Scenes of Mammoth 200: Pacing & Mind Games36:20 – Sarah’s Race Strategy at Bear 10038:01 – Battling Competitors in the Final Miles41:28 – Women’s-Only Broadcast Debate in Trail Running43:55 – Livestreams, Commentary & Growing the Sport47:14 – What It Takes to Run a Race Livestream55:55 – Previewing DC Peaks 50: Weather Worries59:16 – Women’s Race Preview – Sydney Park, Natalie Nicholson, Astrid Lindgren01:07:08 – Podium Predictions for the Women’s 50-Miler01:17:08 – Men’s Race Preview – Hammond, White, Gonzalez, Robinson01:27:08 – Men’s Podium Predictions & Times01:32:30 – Could a Woman Podium Overall?01:37:07 – Grant Running for Jarrett: Racing for a Cause01:39:51 – Sarah’s Next Big Race: Black Canyon 100K01:40:56 – Closing Thoughts & Sign-Off👉 If you enjoy this, subscribe to the channel, drop a comment, and share with your running crew!🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6kACcBFHv166q1Csg07CTB?si=LUFiKQRVQ5m5n5ewy7KswA#TrailRunning #Ultrarunning #Bear100 #DCpeaks #SarahHumble #BlackCanyon100K #NextAidStation

Oct 1

🚨 Race Week is Here! 🚨The ultimate pre-race briefing for the DC Peaks ultramarathon is LIVE. Race directors Jake Kilgore and Mick Garrison break down everything you need to know before race day: weather plans, course updates, drop bag rules, aid station food, cutoffs, shuttles, and more.Whether you’re running the 25K, 55K, or 50 Mile, this is your complete guide to staying prepared and having the best race possible.In this episode:✅ Weather plans (Plan A, B & C)✅ Packet pickup info & location✅ Drop bag details (and how to keep them dry)✅ Course markings & GPS files✅ Aid station nutrition (yes, there’s pizza & pancakes!)✅ Early start, pacers, and shuttles✅ Finish line party: food, music, swag & recoveryWe also share community stories, race dedications, and a special fundraiser for Jared, a 6-year-old battling cancer.https://hopecam.networkforgood.com/projects/258982-grant-milch-50-miler-for-hopecam👉 Don’t forget: • Subscribe to this channel for more race updates & trail running content • Hit like & share this with your crew • Follow us on Instagram for live race-day updates • Listen on Spotify for the full podcast experience

Sep 24

Jake and Mick dive into ultrarunning chaos in this episode, recapping the Mammoth Trail Fest and previewing the Bear 100 showdown between Zach Garner and Chepé, while also tackling hot topics like Karl Malone’s resurfaced scandal, doping debates, and cancel culture in sports. They break down training for DC Peaks and 200-mile races, the viral Karl Malone TikTok that lit up social media, and drama from the Track & Field Worlds, including Sydney McLaughlin’s dominance and Cole Hocker’s wild DQ-to-victory story. The conversation shifts to Mammoth Trail Fest highlights, Coleman Craigin’s breakout performance, prize money debates, and UTMB’s growing influence before heading into bold predictions for the Bear 100, the Sarah-dominated women’s field, and a Worlds preview featuring Caleb Olson, Jim Walmsley, and Francesco Puppi. The episode wraps up with fueling mistakes, listener shoutouts, and plenty of laughs.Timestamps:00:00 – Cold open: Disney trip, kombucha, & chaos 😂01:00 – Welcome back! Jake, Mick & Scott kick things off02:00 – Training fatigue & DC Peaks prep 🏔️04:30 – Strides, cross-country advice & Christian Allen shoutout06:30 – Back-to-back marathons & Strava dark mode07:30 – NBA tangent: Karl Malone scandal resurfaces12:00 – Wild debate: age gaps, teachers, & “Romeo & Juliet laws”15:00 – Karl Malone lawsuit, child support & out-of-court settlement 😳20:00 – Viral TikTok video: “He needs to be under the jail”22:00 – Cancel culture, Jimmy Kimmel & politics in sports26:00 – DOJ conspiracies, text messages & true crime vibes29:30 – Track & Field Worlds: Sydney McLaughlin & juiced East Germans 🏃‍♀️33:00 – Bruce Jenner comparisons & doping in the 80s37:00 – Cole Hocker DQ drama + insane comeback 🏆39:30 – Finally: Mammoth Trail Fest recap & growth42:00 – Tim Tollefson, Hillary Allen & Mammoth 200 launch45:30 – Coleman Craigin breakout & Hoka sponsorship predictions50:00 – Kodiak as a UTMB Major: auto entries explained55:00 – Mammoth 200: low turnout & timing issues58:00 – Prize money, live stream & hype for 2025 💰01:06:00 – Fantasy Free Trail picks: Jimmy Elam, Max Joseph & more01:10:00 – Women’s showdown: Tara Dower vs Rachel Drake 🔥01:16:00 – Training mistakes: 21 miles, no water, no pack 😅01:20:00 – Airbnb drama & race logistics01:25:00 – Bear 100 preview: Zach Garner vs Chappie showdown 🐻01:30:00 – The “Sarah takeover”: 5 out of 6 female winners named Sarah01:35:00 – Can Chepe pull off the Wasatch/Bear double?01:40:00 – Zach Garner’s course record & expectations01:46:00 – Worlds preview: Caleb Olson, Jim Walmsley & Francesco Puppi 🌍01:53:00 – Fueling mistakes, mental toughness & “Mamba mentality”01:57:00 – Fantasy Free Trail: short & long trail picks02:01:00 – Listener shoutouts: Irish D, Rush Limbaugh vibes & Mediocre Amateur fans02:05:00 – Wrap-up: DC Peaks next week!👉 Don’t miss weekly trail & ultra chaos — hit SUBSCRIBE!👥 Share this with your running crew!Keywords (SEO): Mammoth Trail Fest 2025, Mammoth 200 recap, Bear 100 preview, Zach Garner ultrarunning, Chappie Bear 100, Karl Malone scandal 2025, UTMB 2025 major, Coleman Craigin Hoka, Francesco Puppi Worlds, Caleb Olson trail running, Jim Walmsley Worlds

Sep 17

Jake, Mick, and special guest Danny Bryson (Mediocre Amateur) dive into ultrarunning chaos in this episode, mixing race recaps with wild tangents and big debates. They break down Jesse Rich’s breakout Run Rabbit Run win 🏔️, Danny’s hilarious stories of Survivor auditions, Shark Tank near-misses, and even prison, plus the origins of Mediocre Amateur and his terrifying climb of the Matterhorn. The crew discusses the National Park crackdown on FKTs and illegal filming rules, why Kilimanjaro and the Seven Summits might be overrated, and the insanity of the TOR des Géants: 200 miles and 80k of vert with no sleep. They also touch on Kilian Jornet’s ambitious new FKT project, the absurd Guinness LEGO run 😂, and dive deep into Joyline’s doping scandal and the PED debate in ultras 🚨, before wrapping with an I’m Tough 100 preview and listener Q&A.Timestamps:00:00 – Cold open: signing up for Wasatch 100 with zero trail shoes 😅00:20 – Welcome back! Danny Bryson joins the pod 🎙️02:00 – Survivor auditions, Shark Tank near-miss & prison stories06:30 – “Mr. Almost”: the royalty of near misses09:30 – Jesse Rich’s breakout win at Run Rabbit Run 🏔️11:00 – The mystery of the “six-seven” chant12:30 – Brutal training runs with future champions14:00 – Jesse Rich: coach, nutritionist & DC Peaks finish line guest16:30 – Mediocre Amateur origins: from failed TV show to YouTube success19:30 – Climbing Matterhorn & terrifying GoPro footage 🧗‍♂️22:30 – National Park rules, illegal FKTs & filming crackdowns26:00 – Kilimanjaro letdowns & why Seven Summits isn’t worth it30:00 – Life behind Mediocre Amateur: ranch work, plumbing & YouTube grind33:00 – Tour du Mont Blanc fastpack disaster (locked huts, 50-mile day)34:00 – Wild news tangent: Utah political protester & “pants down” arrests 😳39:00 – Oracle’s Larry Ellison makes $100B in a single day 💰41:00 – Would you go to Mars if Elon made it possible? 🚀47:00 – Joyline’s doping scandal & Salomon fallout 🚨52:00 – Should ultras allow doping? The “Dope Olympics” debate57:00 – TOR des Géants recap: 200 miles, 80k vert, no sleep01:03:00 – Nepali runner does 435 miles, then TOR a week later 🤯01:05:00 – Mileage vs vert: what really breaks runners?01:09:00 – Kilian Jornet’s insane new FKT project01:13:00 – Guinness World Record: barefoot 100m over LEGOs 😂01:15:00 – YouTube craft: music choices, editing & standing out01:17:30 – I’m Tough 100 recap & listener question shoutout01:21:00 – AI audiobook hack: turning podcast audio into narration 🎧01:27:00 – Race preview: Carl Meltzer, Trevor Fuchs & I’m Tough lineup01:30:00 – Long unsupported stretches & survival tips for McCall, Idaho01:34:00 – Wrapping up with laughs, comments & shoutouts ❤️

Sep 10

🔥 Doping scandals, $800M lottery dreams, and trail running chaos. This week’s episode of The Next Aid Station is as wild as it gets.Jake and Mick break down the Wasatch 100 and its biggest performances 🏔️ before diving into Joyline’s doping scandal and Salomon’s response 🚨, plus a wider conversation on Lance Armstrong, Nike, and the doping debate in endurance sports. We also break down McAleenan Sunseri’s illegal FKT case and the Department of Justice’s surprising involvement 🏛️, then look ahead with a Run Rabbit Run 2025 preview featuring Arlen Glick, Matt Daniels, Riley Brady, and more. The crew debates trail running prize money, UTMB vs. U.S. races, and whether iconic courses should be reversed, while also laughing through the latest Guinness World Record chaos — a 100m dash barefoot over LEGOs 😂. To wrap it up, we share listener shoutouts, discuss Candace Burt’s business model, and swap stories about Mediocre Amateur. 👉 If you love trail running, ultras, or just hilarious tangents, this is the pod for you.00:00 – Opening hot take: storms at UTMB vs Kaysville00:22 – Welcome back + Wasatch 100 pacing recap 🏔️05:00 – The King of Wasatch: Hosie Cruz’s 5th podium06:00 – Isabella shocks the field in her 100-mile debut07:30 – Why the new Wasatch course is tougher than ever09:00 – Historic times, trail changes & the “chin scraper” debate11:30 – Lead pack drama: drops, surges & surprise moves12:50 – Women’s race recap + sub-24 milestone 💪15:00 – Wild pacing stories & racing with legends16:15 – WNBA Finals, Kawhi Leonard’s $28M no-show deal 🏀20:00 – NBA salary cap loopholes & load management21:40 – Joel Embiid + Zion talk → are stars “bums”?23:20 – Powerball chaos: scam ticket sales & lottery dreams 💰27:00 – What would you buy first with $800M? (pirate trails, jets & cribs)30:00 – $100 steaks, potatoes & billionaire splurges32:00 – Would you blow your winnings or stay frugal?35:00 – Trail running = $20B global industry 🌍37:00 – Road running vs trail running economics38:00 – Announcing: The Running Event in San Antonio 🎤39:00 – The “Diversity Run” controversy & hot takes 🏃‍♂️45:00 – Guinness World Record: barefoot 100m over LEGOs 😂53:00 – Could Mick break it? New Guinness record ideas56:20 – Breaking news: Joyline doping scandal & Salomon fallout 🚨01:05:00 – Lance Armstrong, Nike & doping in endurance sports01:10:00 – Should doping just be legal in ultras?01:17:00 – McAleenan Sunseri’s illegal FKT & DOJ prosecution 🏛️01:23:00 – DOJ overreach, government waste & frustration01:26:00 – KSL news rants & media distrust 📺01:31:00 – Run Rabbit Run preview: men’s field analysis 🏃‍♂️01:45:00 – Women’s preview: Riley Brady, Ashley Paulson & more01:46:00 – Prize money in ultras: will it ever matter?01:54:00 – Should Wasatch or DC Peaks run in reverse? 🔄01:56:00 – Listener comments: Aussies, Kiwis & rude Americans02:00:00 – Moab 240 business model controversy 💸02:04:00 – Candace Burt email response & “closing the loop”02:13:00 – Mediocre Amateur shoutout + Matterhorn climb02:14:00 – Wrap-up: headed to Vegas (Magic Mick style) 🎰📺 Subscribe on YouTube for weekly trail running chaos👥 Share this with your running crew!

Sep 3

In this episode, we dive into Christian Allen’s viral Nike photoshoot and ACG trail sponsorship, his training blocks in Chamonix that included over 100 miles and 23,000 feet of vert, and a breakdown of Cam Hanes’ Broken film and the Cocadona 250. We recap the action from UTMB and OCC, including Jim Walmsley’s frustrations with aid stations, Adam Peterman’s inspiring comeback, and Courtney Dauwalter’s struggles, before shifting to the global stage with the rise of Kenyan and Chinese ultrarunners and what it means for the future of the sport. We also look ahead with a Western States 2025 preview featuring Francesco Puppi, Hayden Hawks, Caleb, and Jim, plus a Wasatch 100 preview and the drama around Zach Garner’s volunteer hours controversy. The episode closes on a lighter note with the funniest listener shoutouts, stories of ping pong battles with Chinese executives, and even a wild Lamborghini dinner invite. Timestamps:00:00 – Cold open: mullets, wigs & Christian’s legendary hair00:24 – Welcome back + intros with Christian Allen02:00 – Nike sponsorship story & viral photoshoot 📸05:30 – Nike Trail merges with ACG: what it means for athletes06:45 – Training in Chamonix: 100 miles, 23,000 ft vert 🏔️08:15 – Wasatch 100 course signs & trail marking chaos12:00 – Cam Hanes’ Broken film & Coca-Dona 250 talk 🎥13:35 – Three-day fasting + hallucinations while racing?!14:30 – Christian’s USA gear giveaway + visor comeback 🧢16:20 – Social media & sponsorship pressures for runners18:00 – Nike’s ACG strategy explained: future of trail gear22:00 – Gear talk: radical airflow shirt & prototypes 👕25:00 – Sydney Marathon recap & Kipchoge running 2:08 at age 4028:00 – Christian’s marathon goals: CIM, Boston & chasing 2:0729:35 – Connor Mance’s American record & shoe tech debates34:00 – BYU, Weber State & coaching legends 🏃‍♂️43:10 – UTMB/CCC review: Christian’s racing + nausea struggles46:00 – Fueling failures, nausea & the Zofran experiment47:55 – Jim Walmsley’s critical UTMB interview 🎤50:00 – Aid station chaos at OCC & live race drama53:15 – Adam Peterman’s comeback + rising stars54:30 – Canadian Sam Hendry’s breakout performance 🇨🇦56:00 – Christian’s plans for sub-4 50K & Golden Trail Finals57:15 – UTMB lottery, stones system & booking the chalet 🏔️01:00:00 – UTMB dream crew planning (and French language struggles)01:01:30 – Western States preview: Francesco Puppi, Hayden Hawks & Drew Holmen01:05:00 – Caleb, Jim & Americans lining up for Western 202501:07:15 – Women’s UTMB: epic finish + tactical battles01:09:00 – Kenyan & Chinese runners storming the scene 🌍01:15:00 – French miss the podium + global shift in ultrarunning01:16:00 – Courtney Dauwalter’s struggles: injury or weather?01:20:00 – Debate: Triple Crown vs winning UTMB multiple times01:25:00 – VK races, Mount Marathon & hardest 5K in the world01:28:00 – Top storylines from UTMB week (panel’s podium picks)01:33:00 – Nike vs Nation: sponsorship vs country pride 🇺🇸👟01:46:00 – Doping, money & the future of the sport 💰01:47:00 – Wasatch 100 preview + Zach Garner volunteer hours drama01:52:00 – Top men’s & women’s contenders for Wasatch02:04:00 – Listener shoutouts & Strava comments ❤️02:08:00 – Chinese business meeting → ping pong & Lamborghini invite 🏓🚗02:09:50 – Wrap-up & thanks to Christian Allen This episode mixes trail running analysis, athlete insights, and pure podcast chaos.👉 Don’t miss weekly episodes — hit SUBSCRIBE on YouTube🎧 Listen on Spotify 👥 Share this with your trail crew!

Aug 27

🔥 The ultimate UTMB 2025 preview + trail running chaos! 🔥In this jam-packed episode of The Next Aid Station, Jake and Mick break down their bold UTMB 2025 predictions, asking whether Hayden Hawks or any American can finally topple the French. They share their Fantasy Free Trail top-10 picks for both the men’s and women’s races, unpack the wild story of the $3.7M Miami Heat jersey theft, and pitch a high-stakes runner vs. mountain biker 50-mile showdown. The conversation also dives into Joe Korsmo’s Broken at 300 documentary, with reflections on why DNFs matter, and explores Tom Evans’ perspective on fatherhood vs. athletic greatness. Beyond the racing world, they debate whether shorter trail races could one day surpass 100-milers in popularity, before closing with listener shoutouts, hilarious fan messages, and a look ahead to exciting upcoming guests. Timestamps:00:00 – Will the French sweep the UTMB podium? 🇫🇷00:24 – Welcome back to The Next Aid Station 🎙️01:12 – UTMB vs Western States: which is bigger?03:20 – The time zone problem for American fans ⏰04:05 – Fantasy Free Trail picks revealed05:46 – Inside jokes & the “six-seven” chant 😂07:07 – Miami Heat security guard scandal: $3.7M jersey theft 🏀09:26 – LeBron’s stolen Finals jersey sold for $100K12:30 – Prison time for a cop turned thief 🚔14:12 – Most valuable jerseys in sports history15:29 – Listener DM: “You guys are God’s silliest gooses” 🪿18:00 – Convincing your spouse to let you race (the eternal struggle)20:39 – Hobby wars: golf guy vs ultra guy vs cyclist guy23:12 – Jake challenged to finally run DC Peaks 50 🏔️24:03 – Runner vs mountain biker showdown idea 🚴‍♂️🏃‍♂️29:09 – Stakes: a Bear 100 entry on the line 🐻30:36 – Plans to livestream the man vs bike race33:57 – Joe Korsmo’s Broken at 300 documentary review 🎥35:27 – Why sharing DNFs matters in ultrarunning38:00 – Tom Evans: “I’d rather be the best dad than the best athlete” 👨‍👧40:02 – Can you be both a world-class runner and a great parent?45:22 – Will anything ever challenge UTMB’s dominance?48:21 – Could shorter trail races surpass ultras in popularity?50:57 – UTMB’s tradition vs the Super Bowl model 🏟️56:01 – Plans for The Next Aid Station to go global 🌍58:09 – UTMB women’s top-10 picks (Courtney, Katie, Abby & more)01:07:08 – Men’s picks: Americans vs French showdown01:20:00 – Can Hayden Hawks deliver America a UTMB win? 🇺🇸01:28:05 – French dominance and the “all-French podium” nightmare01:39:00 – Ping pong showdown with a Chinese businessman 🏓01:44:23 – Hardrock’s lottery system explained01:47:04 – Odds of a French-free podium at UTMB01:52:09 – Trail running in Japan? Mount Fuji dreams 🇯🇵01:52:29 – Listener comments & community shoutouts ❤️01:56:16 – Mediocre Amateur guest announcement01:59:51 – Final fan messages + hilarious age banter02:00:48 – Next week: Christian Allen live in the studio 🎉👉 If you love trail running, ultras, or just good storytelling, this is the episode for you.

Aug 20

🔥 Trail running gets wild in this episode of The Next Aid Station! 🔥From White Pine 50 race stories to the UTMB preview and even a Krispy Kreme–fueled 50 miler, Jake, Mick, and special guest Zach (@trailswithzach) deliver a mix of comedy, controversy, and real talk about ultrarunning.Timestamps:00:00 – Race drama recap & “offended race directors”00:45 – Welcome back to The Next Aid Station + introducing Zach (@trailswithzach)01:15 – White Pine 50 finish line showdown (with a 72-year-old legend)02:40 – Mick “wins” the women’s 60–69 division 😂03:30 – Why “67” is cooler than “69” for Gen Z05:20 – Kings Peak in 6 hours & viral YouTube video06:30 – FaceTiming from the summit & trail “tandem dump” bonding 🤝07:55 – Zach’s first ultra (DC Peaks 50) & sub-9hr goals09:20 – Rice Krispies + applesauce fueling strategy at Bear 10011:00 – White Pine 50 recap: Sarah Humble wins overall!13:00 – “Guy on the Left” turns into a race celebrity14:20 – Course marking challenges & cows eating flags 🐄15:45 – Confessions: cutting the course & whistleblower jokes18:00 – Trekking pole fail: ditching them before the big climb20:30 – Vermont Long Trail FKT: 272 miles in 3.5 days22:00 – Timpanogos FKT debate (Zach vs. Carl Meltzer)24:00 – Christian Allen’s Nike pic & running gossip25:45 – Viral moment: college runner’s “wardrobe malfunction” 😳28:00 – More Long Trail suffering & mental breakdowns30:00 – Zach’s video style & recognition on the trails31:00 – New format: “Chef Zach” + grasshopper protein bars 🦗34:00 – Working with Chela & YouTube growth strategy36:00 – Censorship in China: losing 30M subscribers overnight38:30 – Heading to Canada with Mediocre Amateur40:30 – Running 50 miles on Krispy Kreme donuts 🍩43:30 – Chela insoles & Anthony Costales comeback45:00 – Leadville recap: David Roche’s course record49:00 – Why ultras need better livestreaming (and why Leadville missed out)52:30 – Destination Trails controversy & being “shunned”58:00 – Free speech, blocking, & race politics in ultrarunning01:03:30 – Reflecting on Tahoe 200 & race director conflicts01:05:30 – Camille Herron’s hilarious basketball videos01:07:15 – UTMB preview: American contenders vs Europeans01:10:30 – Francesco Puppi, Eli Hemming & podium picks01:16:00 – Jim Walmsley’s emotional UTMB breakthrough ❤️01:17:30 – Dreaming of racing UTMB someday01:20:00 – Future of ultra livestreaming: heart rate, glucose, wearables01:25:00 – Strava dark mode & hiding workouts01:27:00 – Funniest listener comments & fan moments01:32:00 – Wrapping up with laughs & gratitudeThis episode is packed with laughs, behind-the-scenes stories, and big-picture insights into the sport we love.👉 If you’re into trail running, ultras, or just good banter, hit SUBSCRIBE for more!

Aug 15

🏆 Fresh off a Bigfoot 200 win, Killian Korth joins us in-studio for a deep dive into his race strategy, aid station efficiency, and how he plans to sweep the Triple Crown with a Moab 240 victory.We also debate Leadville predictions (Cam Hanes vs. Truett Haines), discuss the David Roche Western States DNF, and talk training for Moab’s long flat sections. 📌 Subscribe for more ultrarunning stories, elite insights, and race strategy breakdowns.

Aug 14

🎙 From d*ldos on an NBA court, to ugly running visors, to ultramarathon fishing rules — this episode has EVERYTHING.We kick off with visor nostalgia, dive into the bizarre WNBA “dildo-throwing” incident, and then get serious about ultrarunning: White Pine 50 course breakdown, Mammoth 200 predictions, Bigfoot 200 records, and Kenyan domination at Sierre-Zinal. 🏃‍♂️ Topics include: White Pine 50 fishing challenge & Bear Tag series Mammoth 200 elite predictions: Jimmy Elam, Rachel, and more NBA Top 100 rankings debate Lost Bitcoin fortune story The Peyton Craig rivalry: bragging rights & free entry on the line The Box Muncher Hall of Fame 📌 Subscribe now for more ultrarunning stories, race previews, and behind-the-scenes banter.

Aug 4

Jake drops out of the Bigfoot 200. Cody Draper breaks down the Bear 100 lottery change. And one poor runner pukes right before the finish line trying to beat Jake. This episode is chaos—in the best way. 🎧 What You’ll Hear in This Episode: We recap Jake's full Speedgoat 50K experience—including pacing strategies, aid station chaos, and a hilarious finish line showdown. Then we call up Cody Draper, race director of the Bear 100, to talk about the new lottery system, veteran perks, and what this means for the future of ultra races. We also talk training, the Happy Gilmore sequel, WNBA backlash, and the importance of munching the box. Whether you’re prepping for your next 100-miler or just love hearing real trail talk, this one hits.

Jul 28

In this episode of The Next Aid Station , hosts Jake Kilgore and Mick “The Clap” Garrison sit down with ultrarunning legend and bowhunting badass Cam Hanes after getting obliterated on a 4,000ft climb up Mount Olympus. From running 36-minute 10Ks to hunting elk solo in the Oregon backcountry, Cam doesn’t hold back. 🎯 TOPICS COVERED: Racing the Deseret News 10K with Cam Hanes Climbing Mt. Olympus and prepping for Speedgoat Bigfoot 200 predictions: Ashley Paulson vs Mika Behind the scenes of Cocadona 250 (Cam’s meltdown story) WNBA drama, Caitlin Clark takes, and hard fouls The business of ultrarunning: agents, sponsorship, and social media Running a 50K from prison (yes, really) Cam’s hunting plans, life philosophy, and what’s next 🎙️ Raw. Unfiltered. Hilarious. Insightful. Whether you’re into elite performance, outdoor grit, or just want to laugh your ass off — this one’s for you.

Jul 23

🎙️ Speedgoat Secrets, Doping Drama & WNBA Pay Controversy 🏃‍♂️💉🔥In this episode of The Next Aid Station, hosts Jake Kilgore and Mick “The Clap” Garrison dive into a wild mix of topics — from Speedgoat 50K training and race changes, to Rachel Entrekin’s epic dominance, to explosive takes on WNBA’s “Pay Us What You Owe Us” protest and the state of doping in endurance sports. They also talk about: Why the Speedgoat 50K remains one of the most iconic mountain races The ultra trail U.S. short course team and why this year’s squad is stacked Courtney vs Katie – Why isn’t this showdown happening? The Ruth Chepngetich masking agent scandal Testosterone, cheating, and the blurred lines of performance enhancement The surprising truth behind course records falling weekly Rachel Entrekin’s insane win streak (and how she still has no sponsor?!) 💥 If you’re into ultra running , sports culture , and a little healthy controversy, this one’s a must-listen.

Jul 16

What happens when the trail running world’s most inclusive ideals meet its most exclusive races? In this episode of The Next Aid Station , Jake and Mick dive into major topics shaking the ultra scene — from whether Jake should hire his first-ever running coach, to the controversial question of whether Ryan Montgomery should receive the M7 bib at Western States as a non-binary runner. 🔥 Topics we cover: Why hiring a running coach might finally make sense for Jake The massive gap between “real” ultra coaches and downloaded schedules A heated debate on gender categories in races like Western States Should non-binary runners get male bibs in the top 10? A runner’s tragic death at Hardrock: how should races respond? How brand influence might affect who gets picked to race Hardrock Hardrock 100’s “inclusivity” claims vs. their limited entry numbers This one is emotional, honest, and packed with controversial but critical discussions for the future of ultrarunning. ✅ Subscribe for more real convos about trail running 📲 DM us your thoughts or guest suggestions!

Jul 10

🎧 Ultra runners, trail freaks, and endurance junkies — this one’s packed.What happens when the biggest names in trail and ultrarunning come together for Hardrock 100? We’re diving into billionaire mindsets, Hardrock predictions, Walmsley’s no-pacer hot take, and why Katie Schide might podium overall. Jake and MC are back in studio with:🏔️ Hot takes on Western States, UTMB, Bigfoot 200, and Francois’ new FKT💸 Wild billionaire math with Jerry Buss, Zuckerberg, and Bezos🔥 Walmsley’s controversial claim: “Elites shouldn’t use pacers”👟 Bigfoot 200 prep and how drop bag strategy can change the game🚨 Hardrock preview: Can Katie win it all? Will Ludo repeat?Whether you’re a hardcore runner or just love elite performance content, this episode hits hard.

Jul 1

🔥 Was this the most exciting weekend in ultra running? We think so. Jake recaps his epic 75-mile adventure at Lavaredo Ultra Trail in the Italian Dolomites, while Mick breaks down the drama, dominance, and DNFs of this year’s Western States 100 . From Caleb Olson’s iconic victory to David Roche’s controversial DNF , this is a full-spectrum trail running debrief. We cover: What it’s like to race in Europe (aid stations, culture, and carbonation) Caleb Olson’s rise and finger-to-lips celebration Why Corrine Malcolm & DBo make Western’s livestream elite Our brutally honest takes on DNFs, including David Roche and Rod Farvard How Hans Troyer fans came for us (and how we clapped back) Men’s and women’s top 10 recaps and predictions for next year 👟 Whether you’re a trail newbie or seasoned ultra vet, this is your aid station for all things ultra.

Jun 23

We’re back with another episode of The Next Aid Station, and this one is 🔥🔥🔥. It’s a full deep dive into everything Western States 100 2025 — but as always, nothing is off limits. From legendary poop stories to NBA trash talk to bold ultra running predictions, this episode has it all. 👉 If you love ultra running, trail culture, and unfiltered podcast banter — don’t miss this episode.✅ Help support the show:👍 Like & Subscribe for more epic episodes📢 Share with your trail crew💬 Drop your 2024 Western States predictions in the comments!

Jun 18

Twisted Fork recap, Squaw Peak debate, Tahoe 200 drama, and a stacked Broken Arrow preview — this episode is PACKED!Jake and Mick dive deep into the culture shift happening in trail running: is the “old school” ultra vibe dead? Twisted Fork brought the party while Squaw Peak feels like it’s fading. Then it’s on to Tahoe 200 where Kilian Korth absolutely crushed it and gave us a hilarious post-race interview you won’t want to miss.Finally, the Broken Arrow Skyrace preview is here — and it’s insane. Kilian, Patrick Kipngeno, Christian Allen, David Sinclair, and more. Huge names, huge stakes, and wild predictions.

Jun 11

In this episode of The Next Aid Station , Jake Kilgore and Mick Garrison dive deep into the upcoming trail running race calendar, including Squaw Peak 50, the Twisted Fork 68K (why not 69K?!), and the always-iconic Tahoe 200. They discuss who’s racing, who’s dropping, and who’s likely to crush—including their predictions for the men’s and women’s podiums. The episode also takes a powerful turn with the viral story of Stephanie Case, who breastfed her daughter mid-race on her way to winning the Snowdonia 100K. From treadmill torture tests to the controversy around course naming and elevation flexing, nothing’s off the table. Whether you’re racing Western, following the Bear 100 series, or just vibing with the Utah trail scene, this episode delivers a perfect blend of humor, insight, and raw storytelling. Oh, and Jake might podium on the women’s side of the 30K. Again.

Jun 4

The ultra world is on fire—and we’re here to fan the flames. In this week’s Next Aid Station , Jake Kilgore and Mick Garrison are back after a quick break, and the timing couldn’t be better. The Western States shakeup has left the field wide open (00:19:12), big names are dropping like flies, and the long-awaited “Unbreakable 2” film? Dead. With Jim Walmsley and Hayden Hawks out, who’s left to carry the torch? Killian? Caleb? Roche? We’re breaking down the carnage and reshuffling the deck for who’s really got a shot at the podium. But that’s not all. A storm’s been brewing in Arizona—and it’s not the heat. The Black Canyon 100K cheating controversy just got reignited months later thanks to online whistleblowers and Camille Heron’s cryptic crusade for “safety and integrity” (00:39:02). We’ve got thoughts—and we don’t hold back.

May 21

Jake and Nick are back with one of the most loaded episodes yet. Jake signs up for Cocodona 250, Nick commits to Javelina 100, and the rivalry at the Zegama-Aizkorri Marathon between Filemon and Elhousine is heating up. They break down whether Jim Walmsley can hang with the Golden Trail elites and react to Hayden Hawks pulling out of Western States after knee surgery. There’s a deep dive into what makes a UTMB Major (with updates on Kodiak, Mammoth, and UTA vs. UTS), plus a side rant on NBA playoff injuries, load management, and whether the league’s product is broken. Jake also gets destroyed on a long run with some of Utah’s fastest, there’s another DCP riddle drop, and the Mammoth 200 gets officially approved with a stacked inaugural field. If you’re into ultra running, race strategy, or just want to laugh your way through some hot takes—this one’s for you.

May 14

In this episode, we dive into the exciting announcement of the USA 82k Long Trail Team and unpack the roster shake-ups that have everyone talking. Who made the cut, and who’s conspicuously absent? 🤔 But that’s not all—this episode features a surprise call-in from none other than Rachel Entrekin, the reigning Cocodona female champion and trail running royalty. Rachel shares her thoughts on the team, her Cocodona victory, and what’s next in her trailblazing career. Whether you’re a die-hard trail running fan or just love a good underdog story, this episode is packed with insights, surprises, and plenty of inspiration. Don’t miss it!

May 8

In this episode of the Next Aid Station Podcast, we dive deep into the highlights, challenges, and unforgettable moments from the 2025 Cocodona 250! 🏞 Whether you’re a seasoned ultrarunner or just curious about this epic endurance event, this recap has it all.🔑 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The most exciting performances and race highlights. 🏅Behind-the-scenes stories from the trail. 🎥Key takeaways for aspiring ultrarunners. 🏃‍♀️How the Cocodona 250 continues to push the limits of endurance racing. 💪The Cocodona 250 is one of the most grueling and awe-inspiring ultramarathons, spanning 250 miles of breathtaking Arizona landscapes. 🌵 Tune in to hear firsthand accounts and expert insights from this year’s race. 💬 Join the Conversation: What was your favorite moment from the 2025 Cocodona 250? Share your thoughts in the comments below! ⬇️🌟 Don’t Forget to Subscribe!If you love ultrarunning, endurance sports, and inspiring stories, hit that Subscribe button and turn on notifications so you never miss an episode! 🔔

Apr 30

Get ready for the ultimate preview of the 2025 Cocodona 250! 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♀️ We dive deep into the key storylines, top runners to watch, and predictions for one of the most grueling ultramarathons in the world. Will Courtney Dauwalter make history with a sub-60-hour finish? Can veterans like Haroldas Subertas and Mika Thewes defend their dominance, or will first-timers like Cameron Hanes and Elle Jones shake things up? We also recap the 2025 Canyons 100k, the last Golden Ticket race of the season, and discuss the standout performances, including Francesco Puppi’s record-breaking run and the top contenders for WSER. Plus, we share insider details about the Cocodona livestream, Utah’s strong representation, and our own on-the-ground experience pacing Elle Jones.Don’t miss this jam-packed episode filled with ultrarunning insights, stats, and expert analysis! 🌄

Apr 24

In this episode, we delve into the highly anticipated 2025 Canyons 100K, a pivotal race on the Western States Endurance Run Golden Ticket Series. With the top three male and female finishers earning coveted entries into the prestigious Western States 100, the stakes are higher than ever. Join us as we predict who will rise to the occasion, secure their Golden Tickets, and make their mark on the ultrarunning world.​

Apr 17

Why does ultrarunning in Europe feel so different—bigger, louder, more celebrated—than it does in the U.S.? In this episode of The Next Aid Station , we dive into the cultural, geographic, and historical forces that have shaped trail running on both sides of the Atlantic. From the spectacle of UTMB to the grassroots grit of American 100-milers, we explore what’s holding U.S. ultrarunning back from matching the scale, fandom, and mystique of the European scene. Whether you're chasing vert, chasing glory, or just chasing the next aid station, this one's for you.

Apr 10

What really went down at the Arizona Monster 300? In this episode of The Next Aid Station , we break down the controversy surrounding the inaugural Arizona Monster 300 by Destination Trail—lack of porta-potties, overworked volunteers, and the firestorm it sparked in the ultrarunning community. We dig into the facts, the online chatter, and the bigger questions: What do runners deserve from race directors? What happens when 300 miles goes off the rails?

Apr 3

The Arizona Monster 300 is about to test the toughest ultrarunners on the planet—but who has what it takes to survive 300 grueling miles? In this episode of The Next Aid Station , we break down the race course, top contenders, dark horses, and the strategies that could make or break their race. Will experience win out, or will an underdog rise to the occasion? Tune in for our predictions, expert analysis, and what to watch for in one of the gnarliest ultramarathons out there! #Ultrarunning #ArizonaMonster300 #TrailRunning #Endurance #UltraPredictions

Mar 27

The Chianti 120K brought the heat, and we’re breaking down all the top performances, surprises, and storylines from this rugged Italian ultra. Then, we dive into the explosion of high-quality ultramarathon documentaries on YouTube—why they’re getting better, what makes a great one, and how they’re shaping the sport. Tune in for race recaps, deep dives, and all things ultrarunning!

Mar 20

We're back and better than ever! This week we're going over the mysterious Barkley Marathon that's currently going on right now and then we dive right into the Chianti duel between Killian and Jim this weekend.

Oct 31, 2024

In this weeks Episode, Jake and Mick discuss the 2024 ultrarunning seaon! Best races, best performances, breakout performances of the year, and so much more. They also dive into the Javelina Jundred performances & discuss their takeaways from the race. What a year it's been! Sad to wrap this one up but already looking forward to what the 2025 season has in store for us & the ultrarunning community as a whole. Until then!

Oct 26, 2024

Mick & Jake sit down to discuss the upcoming Javelina Jundred in Arizona. Widley considered one of the most competitive Hundred Milers in the country, the top athletes in the ultrarunning world are decending to AZ to race in the desert for 4 golden tickets to the WSER 100!

Oct 23, 2024

Sabrina Stanley, DCP Champion and Course record holder, sits down with Race Director & Pod Host Jake Kilgore to discuss her experience at DCP, what it's like living in Silverton, her astonishing career as a professional Ultrarunner, and so much more!

Oct 16, 2024

We sat down with our 2024 Race Champion, Local Legend Grant Barnette, to talk though his story & introduction to trail running via thru-hiking the Appalachian Trail and the PCT, his experience racing UTMB this past summer & ambitions to race it again, his attempt to break the 24 hour vert world record on skis, and of course his experience at the DCP 50 just 2 weeks ago. Grant is a beast in the mountains and we were thrilled to not only have him here racing our race, but to sit down & speak with him in the studio! We loved this one & hope you do, too.

Oct 10, 2024

How did DC Peaks 2024 go? What did we love and what did we wish we changed? What will we change going forward? How did the field do? We answer all those and more!

Oct 2, 2024

Ladies and gents, the time has come. It is DC Peaks week and we're PUMPED to talk about our race and runners for this year's DC Peaks 50 miler. We have put our heart and soul into making all of our events top tier events so we hope you love them as much as we do.

Sep 25, 2024

This week we get into the craziness that exploded across the ultrarunning world when "legendary" ultrarunner Camille Herron and her husband were caught edited wikipedia pages to make herself seem better than her peers while deleting accomplishments from their pages. We also spend the rest of the episode diving into our favorite 100 miler, The Bear, and the stacked field of runners they have running it this weekend.

Sep 18, 2024

The IMTUF 100 is an incredible 100 mile ultramarathon in Idaho that Jake and Mick have both ran. The Race Director, Jeremy Humphreys, is an awesome RD and we want to show some love to this race and give their runners some love as well.

Sep 4, 2024

Come on in and join our post-UTMB discussion about the carnage that happened at the UTMB 100. We also go in-depth on this year's stacked field in the Wasatch 100 and who we think will come out on top.

Aug 31, 2024

The Ultimate ultramarathon is happening this weekend, UTMB, and we predict who will land on the men and women's podium as well as who will take home the whole thing.

Aug 22, 2024

This week go into the UTMB CCC 100k race that is happening next week! We talk a little more about the Olympics, our favorite ultra running moments so far this year, and then dive deep into the field at CCC.

Aug 16, 2024

This week we dive into the upcoming White Pine 50 instead of Leadville 100 because for some reason Leadville is secretive about who runs their race (weird, right?).

Aug 8, 2024

This week we dive into the Bigfoot 200 and go through the challengers that are toeing the line in Washington.

Aug 1, 2024

This week we're going deep...real deep...into the DC Peaks 50 mile ultramarathon course as we have had to make a couple big changes that will affect those that have ran this course previously. This episode is a great resource for anyone running our races, or are looking to run our races.

Jul 26, 2024

In this episode, we discuss the possibility of ultra trail running in the olympics - what would the distances be? How would athletes qualify? What countries would dominate ultra trail running?

Jul 18, 2024

This week we dive into the ultra competitive Speedgoat 50k here in our backyard this weekend. Who you do have pulling out the win?

Jul 11, 2024

This week we go over the iconic Hardrock 100 ultramarathon and go in detail on the runners that are toeing the line this year. Who do you think will make it out on top with this legendary field?

Jul 4, 2024

Jake is still dealing with the after effects of being in federal prison on the 4th of July for a couple years. The irony of playing a softball game while in prison on July 4th is something he's thought about over the years now that he's no longer incarcerated. Listen to this week's episode to dive into Jake's mind and he scratches the surface of what went on with him and the federal government.

Jun 27, 2024

Jake and Mick dive into the 2024 Western States 100 Ultramarathon. They go over their favorites for the men and women's field, as well as they include some dark horses and people to watch.

Jun 20, 2024

Jake did what at his first 200 mile ultramarathon? Listen for the full breakdown of this year's Tahoe 200 from his perspective!

Jun 13, 2024

We go through our podium picks and watch list for the Tahoe 200 mile ultramarathon as well as we draft our top 5 favorite aid station fuel. This is an episode you won't want to miss!

Jun 6, 2024

The Snow Peak 50 is coming up this weekend so join us this week for our race preview and podium predictions!

May 23, 2024

With all of these 200 milers popping up and selling out, is the next big ultramarathon distance now 200+ miles? Are 50 milers on their way out with 100 milers becoming the new standard?

May 16, 2024

This week we go through the crazy results from the Cocodona 250 and give our watch list for the upcoming Bryce Canyon 100 ultramarathon!

May 9, 2024

This week we hit the hard hitting question: what level of mountain biker would an ultrarunner be able to beat in a 50 mile or 100 mile ultramarathon?

May 1, 2024

Now that ultrarunning season is kicking off it's time for our age-old tradition of sitting down and predicting the podium/winners for the Cocodona 250.

Apr 19, 2024

The Zion 100 was a humbling experience for Jake, and everything that went into him DNF'ing tells a story of what ultrarunning is about for him. The most interesting part of this story is it is opening a new chapter in why Jake runs ultramarathons.

Nov 2, 2023

Incredible DC Peaks Aid Station Captain, and even better ultrarunner Elle Jones joins us to go in-depth on everything that happened at the Moab 240. It was such an awesome experience for her and everyone involved and we couldn't wait to hear her story.

Oct 26, 2023

GoodLeap Executive Paul Stephan joins us to dive into the state of the solar industry as it stands today and from his point of view at GoodLeap.

Oct 19, 2023

Liz Butler gave us some great insight on our episode today about our course, DC Peaks 50, and why she runs. She truly enjoys the mountains and trail running, which is something more of us could remind ourselves of.

Oct 12, 2023

Adam Loomis joins us today on The Next Aid Station Podcast to talk about his experience with our race, DC Peaks 50, and also his career as a professional athlete and how he transitioned into ultra running.

Sep 28, 2023

Ben Light joins us this week on the podcast to talk about his training methodology for ultra running clients, his insane back-to-back Wasatch 100 and Tahoe 200 weekend, and more!

Sep 21, 2023

Special guest Peter Mortimer joins us this week to talk about his ultrarunning journey and what his career has been like. He's one of the best runners out there and it was a pleasure to have him on the show to pick his brain about how he trains, how he prepares for races, and what it takes to win 100 milers.

Sep 14, 2023

Jake ran one of his toughest 100 mile ultramarathons to date, the Mogollon Monster, down in Arizona this past weekend. It was a beast of a race and despite all of his setbacks including major GI issues he was able to conquer it one aid station at a time.

Sep 11, 2023

IMTUF 100 Race Director, Jeremy Humphreys, joins us to talk about his extensive ultrarunning experience and how he's used that to create the IMTUF 100, as well as how he's used the Next Aid Station Mentality to get through his trials and difficulties in life.

Sep 6, 2023

We are so lucky to be able to have the one and only Jeff Browning on this week! He was such an awesome guest and we loved being able to pick his brain about the races he's ran, the things he's learned about himself and the sport while running and more!

Aug 24, 2023

Another great episode you won't want to miss with the Speedgoat himself, Karl Meltzer. The winningest 100 mile ultrarunner in the world joins us to talk about 100 milers that he's ran over the years, how the sport has changed so much in the last decade, what he loves about the sport, and more!

Aug 9, 2023

One of the best endurance runners in the world, Mike McKnight, joins us to talk about the chaotic 2023 Cocodona 250 that he won, his training and coaching philosophy and more!

Aug 3, 2023

Former CEO and Owner of Bell Solar and Electrical Systems, Alexia Cooper, joins us as we talk about the merger and acquisition of Bell. There was a lot that went into having the Bell team join the 1Solar family. We couldn't be more excited to hear from Alexia about her career, how she empowers her employees and especially women in the work force, and more!

Jul 27, 2023

Bear 100 Race Director Cody Draper joins us on this week's show to talk about his race, the legacy of the previous race director, some of his favorite races and more!

Jul 17, 2023

Elite ultrarunner Trevor Fuchs joins us to talk about ultrarunning as a sport, as therapy, and as a hobby as well as what it takes to run 100 mile ultramarathons at a high level.

Jul 7, 2023

Good friend and ultrarunner, Preston Wood, hops on the podcast to talk in-depth about watching the amazing new livestreams for 100 milers and what it takes to run 100 milers.

Jun 15, 2023

We have a very special guest this week from Weber State University Track & Field and XC, Corbin Talley, to talk all things running. We go in-depth on what he's learned in his 20 year coaching career, what he loves about running, how runners should train, and more! For all you runners out there, this is an episode you can't miss.

Jun 8, 2023

PayKeeper CEO joins us this week to talk about how his company, PayKeeper, helps contractors in EVERY industry get cash jobs paid out from customers quickly and easily. PayKeeper sets up an FDIC insured escrow account for every cash job where the customer has to fully fund the escrow account to get jobs done. It gives the contractors peace of mind knowing the money is all there when doing the job, and it also provides security for the customer where if the contractor doesn't follow through then the customer doesn't have to release the money to the contractor. It's a win-win.

Jun 2, 2023

This episode is the start of a series about my life while fighting with the DoJ for a decade and then what prison was like for me and my family. This podcast series will be intriguing for everyone who listens as I want to talk about prison and the broken justice system to shed light on what it's truly like to be investigated and strong armed by the federal government.

May 25, 2023

This week we're joined by Sam Taggart, the D2D Guru himself, to talk about what needs to change in the Door-to-Door industry. The Solar industry is changing and we need to change how this industry operates for it to survive. Sam gives his expert advice on what needs to change, how it needs to change, and how his companies such as D2D University and the D2D Association are changing it on the frontlines.

May 17, 2023

I'm joined by Jess Reagan, CRO at Gamify, to talk about the software industry, solar industry and the struggles in life that we all go through. Jess has been through some incredibly difficult times and talks about how he pushed through them to build up an amazing life and an amazing career.

May 9, 2023

Ultra runner and DC Peaks 50 course record holder, Kilian Korth, joins us today to go in-depth on what happened during the Cocodona 250 this year that landed him in the ICU. We also talk about the difference in training for 100 and 200 milers, nutrition during a 250, strategies to run the 200+ mile ultra marathons and more!

May 4, 2023

Buffalo Run Race Director, Jim Skaggs, joins us this week to discuss this year's cancellation of the Antelope Island 100 miler due to weather, as well as his career in ultra running over the last couple decades. Jim is about to run his 100th ultra marathon this weekend! What a beast!

Apr 28, 2023

Today's guest John Frampton goes through his 10-year career that started at SolarCity and working his way to the CEO of Nivo Solar, a Texas-based solar company that did over $90M in its first year and is seeking $250M this year.

Apr 28, 2023

This week our friend and guest, Rhandi Orme, joins us to talk about her experience in this past Boston Marathon, what happened at the Leadville 100, and more! It's an episode all you runners won't want to miss!

Apr 13, 2023

Leading up to the Boston Marathon that takes place each year on Patriots Day, just a few days away from now, guest Mick Garrison and I talk about the Boston Marathon and what it means to each of us personally, and to our running careers. In 2016, just weeks before self-surrendering to prison, Mick and I ran the Boston Marathon together. During this dark time in my life the NXT AID STN Mentality was born as I used it to get me through those torturous months between pleading and prison (6 months). In 2018, my final aid station in prison was watching the Boston Marathon - just two days before being released back home to my family. The Boston Marathon will always have a special place in my heart.

Mar 30, 2023

Today we talk with the founder of SolarCon, Jake Hess, about the event he's hosting, the state of the solar industry, as well as digging into the trials that both of us have gone through in life. Jake went from an alcoholic that was struggling in life to creating a thriving consulting business as well as hosting one of the biggest events in the solar industry.

Mar 24, 2023

This week Jake discusses how important his ultra-running crew is during an ultra-marathon as well as his life crew that supports him during everything else. How can you apply this to your life and where can you find your life crew?

Mar 17, 2023

The NXT AID STN Podcast is about how to use the Next Aid Station Mentality to overcome life's challenges. Whether it's tough times in your life due to marital or relationship stress, substance abuse, or anything else this mentality will help you get through life one aid station at a time. This mentality stems from ultra marathons where each aid station is a respite where you can sit down, fuel up, and reset for the next 5-7 miles before you get to the next aid station. This mentality specifically has helped my family and I get through tough times especially when I went to federal prison in Colorado. The way that I could efficiently serve my time was by creating aid stations along the way that I just had to get to. We hope this podcast helps all of you listening with whatever you may be struggling with.