Joshua Browder: Why AGI Is Further Away Than Silicon Valley Claims | DSH #1688

Companies are getting stronger, consumers are getting squeezed, and the government isn’t stepping in — so Joshua Browder, the CEO & founder of DoNotPay, built the world’s first “robot lawyer” to fight back. From beating parking tickets in 2015… to building AI vs. AI negotiation tools, refund bots, anti-spam traps, data-privacy nukes, and free-trial shields — Browder shares how his company is quietly saving people millions by taking on landlords, airlines, telecom giants, data brokers, debt collectors, and more. 📚 WHAT YOU’LL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE 🤖 How DoNotPay uses AI to negotiate with giant corporations 📞 Why “AI vs. AI” battles are the future of customer service 💰 The $1,500 spam-call trick and how it legally works 💳 How free-trial surfing prevents unwanted charges 🏠 How AI helps recover security deposits & fight corporate landlords 🧑‍🎓 Why Joshua invests in dropouts instead of Big Tech veterans 🚀 The real traits of billion-dollar founders (from the Teal Fellowship) 🧠 Why AGI isn’t as close as Silicon Valley says 🏗️ How to identify ideas that are actually businesses, not jargon 🌍 Why consumer power is shifting — and how to reclaim yours CHAPTERS 0:00 – Why companies are gaining power and consumers are losing it 0:42 – Introducing Joshua Browder at AI4 1:07 – The evolution of DoNotPay: From tickets to AI phone negotiations 2:00 – AI vs. AI: How bots negotiate with Comcast & telecom giants 2:52 – Refunds, rent disputes & fighting corporate landlords 3:56 – The $1,500 spam-call trap card (genius feature explained) 5:00 – Free-trial surfing & fintech tools that save consumers money 6:55 – The Teal Fellowship, Peter Thiel, and building billion-dollar founders 10:46 – Why Browder invests in dropouts over Big Tech employees 12:52 – AGI debate, startup clarity, and the future of consumer AI 🎙️ APPLY OR CONNECT 👉 Apply to be on the podcast: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application 📩 Business inquiries / sponsors: sean@digitalsocialhour.com 👤 GUEST: Joshua Browder - https://www.instagram.com/joshuabrowder12/ https://www.threads.com/@joshuabrowder12 💼 SPONSORS QUINCE: https://quince.com/dsh 🥗 Fuel your health with Viome: https://buy.viome.com/SEAN Use code “Sean” at checkout for a discount! 🎧 LISTEN ON 🍏 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 🎵 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 📸 Sean Kelly Instagram: @seanmikekelly ⚠️ DISCLAIMER The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. While we encourage open and honest discussions, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and seek professional advice where appropriate. The content shared is for entertainment and informational purposes only — it should not be taken as legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. We strive to present accurate and reliable information; however, we make no guarantees regarding its completeness or accuracy. The views expressed are solely those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent those of the producers or affiliates of this program. 🔥 Stay tuned for more episodes featuring top creators, founders, and innovators shaping the digital world! 🔑 KEYWORDS Joshua Browder, DoNotPay, robot lawyer, AI negotiation, AI consumer tools, AI vs AI, Comcast negotiation bot, free trial surfing, spam call trap, TCPA compensation, data broker removal, nuclear privacy, Peter Thiel Fellowship, Teal Fellow, startup investing, dropout founders, young founders, Silicon Valley, AGI debate See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .