About this episode
What can a $100K riot-inducing sneaker teach us about storytelling, design, and creativity? Jeff Staple’s 2005 Nike Pigeon Dunk didn’t just drop. It ignited a riot in the streets of New York City and helped rewrite the rules of streetwear, brand marketing, and storytelling through design. On IN PROXIMITY, Jeff joins host Paola Mardo to unpack how he built Staple into a global brand one shoe and collab at a time, what filmmakers and creatives can learn from design and brand building, “the power of the t-shirt” and marketing before social media and the internet, the wild story of his elevator pitch to Yasiin Bey (then Mos Def), and how to navigate hustle culture and find creative inspiration anywhere. Learn more and read the transcript of this conversation at ProximityMedia.com . (00:00) The sneaker riot story (02:40) Jeff Staple did for the pigeon what Walt Disney did for the “rat” (03:15) Not Just Sneakers book and Jeff’s interest in brand design and sneakers at a young age (06:30) Growing up in an immigrant Chinese family in New Jersey in the 1970s and 1980s (09:20) The Staple Origin Story and Connie Chung (13:14) Turning his art into a business (14:50) “The power of the t-shirt” and marketing before social media and internet (18:00) Seeing your art in the wild, streetwear as IYKYK (19:02) Is streetwear still cool? (21:15) Staple and hip-hop (23:36) The Pigeon and trademarking pigeon poop (26:40) Elevator pitching the collaborating with Yasiin Bey (Mos Def) (31:20) Collaborations today (34:00) How to stay connected to the creative, why he started a podcast (35:50) Hacking hustle culture (39:00) The Goods a.k.a. the shoes and the full sneaker riot story (44:50) Jeff’s checklist for designing sneakers (48:04) Jay-Z vs. Andre 3000 creative careers (51:20) Prox Recs IN PROXIMITY Now playing in video on YouTube and in audio on all podcast platforms. For transcripts and more information: ProximityMedia.com PROXIMITY MEDIA Follow us @ProximityMedia on Instagram and TikTok . IN PROXIMITY IS A PRODUCTION OF PROXIMITY MEDIA Host, Director, Producer: Paola Mardo Executive Producers: Ryan Coogler, Zinzi Coogler, Sev Ohanian Theme Song and Additional Music: Ludwig Göransson Co-Director and Director of Photography: Patrick Epino Sound Designer and Mix Engineer: Ken Nana Editors: Patrick Epino, Brittani Brown, Ken Nana, A.J. Calomay Sound Recordist: Isabella Miller Production Assistant: Isabella Miller Post-Production Coordinator: Celine Mendiola Social Media Coordinator: Alexandria Santana Production Intern: Ben Caloza