February 11, 2024
EP 65: Calvinism, Gnosticism, and The TULIP Monster- Salvation and The Heart of God
The Days of NoahAbout this episode
Welcome Days of Noah family to another episode! My good friend Don is back with me in studio as we recreate a conversation that was sparked by an X post (formerly Twitter) of mine that Don had some, well, let's just say, some disagreements with! But in the spirit of reasoning together and brotherly love, we decided to record our conversation on the topic of 5 Point Calvinism (TULIP theology), not as a debate, but more of trying to explain our own opinions and ideas on the subject. For my reformed theology/Calvinist brothers and sisters out there- we LOVE you all! My strong belief is simply that Gnosticism, as a form of fatalism, had been amalgamated into Christianity, primarily by Augustine, just a few hundred years after Christ, and that this un-Christian doctrine became the basis for what is now called 5 point Calvinism (as John Calvin said himself how Augustine was his primary influence in his own writings), summed up by the acronym, TULIP (Total depravity, Unconditional election, Limited atonement, Irresistible grace, and Perseverance of the saints). My contention is that this doctrine is wholly unbiblical because it distorts both the Bible and God's character, as it assumes that if God is predetermining some for salvation, he is also predetermining most for damnation. I believe, however, that God truly desires and makes salvation available for ALL, and it's ON US if we reject His free gift of salvation. The Gospel is INDEED GOOD NEWS for ALL!! Here's some resources to check out: https://www.amazon.com/Foundation-Augustinian-Calvinism-Ken-Wilson/dp/108280035X Ken Wilson's book above, a truncated summary of his doctoral dissertation on the subject, shows the historical evidence for Augustine's Manichaean Gnosticism being used to interpret Christian doctrine on salvation. Here's a link discussing how the Bible uses the word "dead" in regard to our fallen, sinful state prior to salvation: https://soteriology101.com/2017/07/07/dead-means-dead/ Please consider supporting our podcast; for Luke and I to create 4 episodes a month takes an average of 40 hours to research, record, and produce, sometimes more. If you find value in our work and would like to help support us, please choose from the options below. Thanks very much!! -Luke and Pete Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/peteohlinger Cash App: https://cash.app/$PeteOhlinger Venmo: https://venmo.com/u/Pete-Ohlinger Feel free to contact us with any questions or comments for the show! Email us at: thedaysofnoahpodcast@gmail.com We’d love to hear from you! Thanks for listening- we appreciate each and every one of you out there. Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe, and tell your friends and family about the show, and leave us a five-star review, which helps to spread the show to others! Original Music by BassManPete Cover art is of Mt. Hermon, site of the Watcher's descent, photo credit: By Almog - Own work, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=2181987, and beautifully crafted into our logo by graphic designer Christine Forster (https://x.com/GfxChristine00?s=20) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.