About this episode
Ron DeSantis may be a black hole of charisma, but election denier Kari Lake knows how to run a campaign. Are these two the future of the MAGA movement in 2024? Plus, progressive Dems retracted a letter to Biden calling on a diplomatic solution to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. JVL, Sarah and Tim discuss on this week's The Next Level. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices