About this episode
Bruce Jones, director of the Project on International Order and Strategy of the Foreign Policy program at the Brookings Institution, joins the show to discuss seapower. Times 00:51 - Introduction 01:17 - The importance of seapower today 06:45 - Innovation of container shipping and how that changed the global economy 12:50 - China re-enters the seas 16:54 - China’s security challenges at sea 22:44 - Shallow seas, narrow passages, and massive ships 24:06 - China’s strategic interest in Taiwan 26:10 - China’s alienation of potential allies 29:08 - American strategic view of the Pacific Ocean 34:41 - Relations between the United States and India, specifically in terms of taking on China 39:12 - Seapower theorist Alfred Thayer Mahan 44:55 - Comparing America’s quest for power at sea during the 20th century and China’s return to the sea today 48:48 - The role of oceanography in nation-state power competition