About this episode
Poet Franny Choi knows that marginalized communities have been facing apocalypses forever. But in her new book, The World Keeps Ending and the World Goes On , she uses their survival as a way to look forward. In this episode, she tells NPR's Leila Fadel how understanding that pain and resilience can ultimately be a source of hope. Then, former U.S. poet laureate Billy Collins discusses his new collection of very short poems, Musical Tables , with NPR's Scott Simon – and gets into the complexities of how sometimes saying less can offer so much more. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy