About this episode
Leigh Ann Caldwell joins Peter to discuss two upcoming off-ramps for the government shutdown, and the pressure points that could bring an end to this grueling political stalemate. Then they consider how House Speaker Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thune have ceded congressional power to Trump, and what this portends for both parties going forward. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices