About this episode
I had the great honor of writing a book with legendary psychiatrist Phil Stutz. Now that True and False Magic is out, I got to ask him about some of the concepts that have remained on my mind: the lie of certainty, the purpose of creativity, why some of the hardest parts of life are also what makes it compelling and fun, and why he believes I should be 10 percent more evil (and maybe you should, too). For our book, more of Phil Stutz’s work (including The Tools and Coming Alive ), the documentary Stutz , and the rest of the show notes, head over to my Substack . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.