About this episode
Athena (31) and Arie (30) are newly married and dreaming of buying a home, starting a family, and traveling the world. But their finances—and philosophies—don’t align. Athena’s upbringing was defined by instability and strict religious messaging around money; Arie’s was middle-class and frugal. Now, they're realizing that love alone isn’t enough—they need a shared plan. Can Ramit help them define their values, shift their dynamic, and start building a future as true partners? In this episode we uncover: • The subtle financial tension that’s been building—and how it’s showing up in everything from gift-giving to debt. • Why Arie is laser-focused on buying a home, while Athena worries about losing her freedom. • The real reason Athena keeps her finances separate—and how her upbringing shaped that decision. • How Arie’s savings mindset clashes with Athena’s more flexible approach to money. • A surprising admission about holiday spending. • What it really means to feel “safe” with money. • The power struggle hiding beneath their shared bank account. • How financial shame from childhood still influences their present-day relationship. • Their unspoken fears—and how Ramit pushes them to define their shared Rich Life. Chapters: (00:00:00) “It’s a dream”—but what if your partner doesn’t share it? (00:08:30) They don’t fight—but is that actually the problem? (00:21:19) “I don’t know if I can say yes if I have debt” (00:24:44) Ramit breaks down their numbers (00:37:36) Dreaming big while avoiding the details (00:45:32) “What kind of person doesn’t own a house?” (00:55:33) The moral script keeping Athena stuck (01:14:39) “If you want something for yourself, you’re greedy” (01:22:57) Getting honest about a future they can’t afford (01:33:15) Where are they now? Athena and Arie’s follow-ups This episode is brought to you by: DeleteMe | If you want to get your personal information removed from the web, go to https://joindeleteme.com/ramit for 20% off. Leesa | During Leesa's 4th of July Sale, get 30% off plus an extra $50 off at https://leesa.com with promo code RAMIT. Factor | Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box at https://factormeals.com/RAMIT50OFF with code RAMIT50OFF. Rocket Money | Cancel unwanted subscriptions and manage your expenses the easy way at https://rocketmoney.com/ramit Trust & Will | Protect what matters most in minutes at https://trustandwill.com/ramit and get 10% off plus free shipping. Links mentioned in this episode • Get Ramit’s 3 Step Guide to Buying a House Connect with Ramit • Get my new book, Money For Couples • Get Money Coaching with Ramit • Download the Conscious Spending Plan • Listen to my book—now on Audible • Get my New York Times best-selling book • Get my no-numbers journal • Other episodes • Instagram • Twitter • YouTube If you and your partner have a money issue and you want my help, I occasionally select a couple to work with, free of charge. Apply for my help here .