About this episode
Michael talks to Graeme Wood, staff writer at The Atlantic and co-author of "The Way of the Strangers: Encounters With The Islamic State." He obtained a handbook that tells Hamas's members how to take hostages. His piece is "Hamas's Hostage-Taking Handbook Says to 'Kill the Difficult Ones' and Use Hostages as 'Human Shields'." Original air date 20 October 2023. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.