About this episode
You read that title correctly - listen to Michael's great conversation with journalist McKay Coppins, Staff Writer at The Atlantic. For many Americans, the former president has become an abstraction. They should see for themselves what his campaign is really about. Original air date 18 January 2024. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.