About this episode
A deep dive into former Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, President Trump's pick to be the next Director of National Intelligence. Michael welcomes New York Times Features Writer Elizabeth Williamson who has written about Gabbard. The conversation then expands to Robert F Kennedy Jr's nomination for Health and Human Services Secretary, and we wonder, which of the two has a more difficult path forward? Original air date 30 January 2025. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.