About this episode
Karine Jean-Pierre grew up the proud daughter of immigrants who came to this country for a better life. And she achieved the ultimate American Dream, making history as both the first Black woman and the first openly gay person to serve as the White House Press Secretary. During an in-person sit down at the White House, Sophia catches up with Karine, who reveals what really happens outside of the Briefing Room, the secret to her success, how her tough childhood shaped her, the historical significance of the room they're chatting in, and why representation matters to all of us. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.