About this episode
New York’s Governor Kathy Hochul leads like a mom who’s had enough — protective, outspoken, and unwilling to watch her people get pushed aside. She opens up about the loving anger that drives her, the urgency of defending families, and what it takes to lead with both empathy and backbone. She also has a message for critics of newly-elected NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani, because she believes New York is at its best when we all work together. It's a candid, clear-eyed look at how she’s fighting for New Yorkers when it matters most. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.