About this episode
So you are really passionate about regenerative, sustainable agriculture and food, right? And how many times have you heard, " Yes, that's all very nice but you couldn't feed the world that way; it wouldn't work at scale! " In this episode I talk to Sir Patrick Holden , the man who's building the roadmap to show us that it could. You'll hear us talk about his latest research into how the UK could feed itself using fertiliser/pesticide-free sustainable agriculture (with no grain-fed animals!), the tools to take this global , and how this lifetime campaigner for sustainable animal-involved agriculture feels about lab meat, supermarkets, ground-up change and much more. We're so grateful to him for sharing a little of his 50 year career as both a farmer and an activist with us. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Get more news from Alison & Andrea by signing up to their newsletter at the top of the page here. For more tips, inspiration and recipes plus a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains sign up for Alison's newsletter here! Get our two podcast cookbooks: Meals at the Ancestral Hearth Spelt Sourdough Every Day Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP . Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies. Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop for a vast selection of ancestral cookbooks: US link here and UK link here . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Our podcast is supported by a community of ancestral cooks around the world! Come join our community! You can choose to simply sponsor the podcast, or select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live Zoom calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content from Alison and Andrea, and a Discord discussion group. To read more about becoming a supporter and explore the various levels, click here! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * What We Talk About: * The Sustainable Food Trust's recent report 'Feeding Britain From The Ground Up' * How the UK could grow its staple foods using regenerative agriculture * The roadblocks in the way of this change and how we can address them * The metric being developed that would allow farmers worldwide to measure their sustainability using the same framework * Whether there's a role for laboratory-generated meat in a sustainable food future * Whether this shift needs to come from top-down or bottom-up * What, if you can't give them up, you need to be asking the supermarkets you shop at * What Sir Patrick thinks we need now in order to create the change * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5* reviews on Apple Podcasts, mean the world to us! Here's how you can leave one: Open the Apple Podcast app Find Ancestral Kitchen Podcast in your library Scroll down to 'ratings and reviews' Click on 'write a review', give us 5*s and then tell us why you love listening in the box below * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Resources : Download The Sustainable Food Trust's report 'Feeding Britain From The Ground Up' here. There are three videos that succinctly and clearly explain the report and its findings: Introduction video , What We'd Eat video , and Potential Stumbling Blocks video SFT on Instagram Patrick's farm on Instagram Do you have memories, documents, recipes or stories of those who cooked ancestrally? If so, we would love to hear from you! Visit our website here for how to share. Thank you for listening - we'd love to connect more: The podcast has a website here! Alison is taking a break from Instagram. You can stay in touch with her via her newsletter at Ancestral Kitchen The podcast is on Instagram at Ancestral Kitchen Podcast The podcast is mixed and the music is written and recorded by Alison's husband, Rob. Find him here: Robert Michael Kay