About this episode
Recovering bartender, cookbook author, and beverage entrepreneur John deBary joins Dave Chang and Chris Ying to discuss the three recipes they have chosen to represent a truly transformative ingredient: chickpeas. Find the recipes for this episode and all previous episodes on The Ringer’s website and follow along with the conversation on Facebook , Twitter , and Instagram . Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: John deBary Producer: Isaac Lee Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices