About this episode
Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast Subscribe to Ark Media’s new podcast ‘What’s Your Number?’: lnk.to/DZulpY For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.org To contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: arkmedia.org/ Ark Media on Instagram: instagram.com/arkmediaorg Dan on X: x.com/dansenor Dan on Instagram: www.instagram.com/dansenor Today’s episode: Following the October 7th Hamas attack on Israel, Brett McGurk was a lead negotiator for the U.S. Government in every round of hostage/ceasefire negotiations in 2023, 2024, and January 2025. In today’s episode, which we recorded before a live audience at the Manhattan JCC last week, Brett sat down for his first long-form/on-the-record conversation on his lessons learned, including how these lessons inform the current (on-again/off-gain) negotiations over the Witkoff Plan. Brett McGurk has held senior national security posts across the Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden administrations. Most recently, he served as President Biden’s White House Coordinator for the Middle East and North Africa. In this role, he spearheaded U.S. Government efforts across the region to secure the release of Israeli hostages and a ceasefire in Gaza and he coordinated international support for Israel’s defense against Iranian ballistic missile attacks. As Special Presidential Envoy for both President Obama and President Trump, McGurk was an architect of the global coalition of more than 80 countries together with local forces on the ground to defeat ISIS. He also led secret negotiations with Iran to secure the release of American hostages, including Washington Post reporter Jason Rezaein. As a senior White House official under George W. Bush, Brett was an early advocate for a change in Iraq war policy and helped develop “the surge” strategy. He also negotiated the Strategic Framework Agreement with Iraq, which continues to guide U.S. relations between the two countries. He is now a Venture Partner at Lux Capital, a venture capital firm based in New York City and Silicon Valley, as well as a Special Advisor for international affairs at Cisco, and holds fellowships at both the Harvard’s Belfer Center and the Atlantic Council. He’s also a CNN Global Affairs Analyst. CREDITS: ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer