About this episode
What if October 7 didn't only traumatize Israel and Jews worldwide—but actually changed the course of Jewish history? On this special episode of For Heaven’s Sake, Yossi Klein Halevi and Shalom Hartman Institute of North America CEO Rachel Jacoby Rosenfield explore his bold thesis that October 7 marked the end of the post-Holocaust era of increased Jewish security and acceptance. Their wide-ranging conversation tackles antisemitism, Jewish power, generational divides, and the urgent need for a new Jewish story. This conversation was recorded live at the Shalom Hartman Institute’s Jerusalem campus on July 16, 2025. Watch the video version of our podcast on our Youtube channel . Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org . For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org , or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST . Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more.