About this episode
Todd Von Joel and Joel Bardall talk about inner strength and weakness and how both play a part in the nature of working in and running a business in the Decorating industry. Todd Von Joel, as a big boxing fan, invites Commonwealth Gold Medalist Lewis Williams to join the discussion and explain how he manages moments of weakness and builds up his mental and physical strength for each bout - not a million miles from how you might have to when running your own projects!