About this episode
The Bulwark editor Jonathan Last tells The New Abnormal that if Chris Christie really believes that Donald Trump must be stopped at all costs, then he has one card left to play. Plus! Anat Shenker-Osorio , host of the Words to Win By podcast, tells The New Abnormal co-host Danielle Moodie , how Joe Biden’s 2024 campaign messaging is landing with voters. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.