About this episode
N ew York City is the densest city in the US. The runner up is San Francisco. NYC has more than 10,000 COVID-19 deaths. As of Monday, San Francisco had 15. Not 15,000. Fifteen people. California got hit with COVID-19 first, but they didn't get hit hard. We explore why, and what places like New York can learn from their approach. On Today's Show: As states begin to weigh how to enter people back into the workforce, Thomas Fuller , San Francisco bureau chief for The New York Times , discusses how California is approaching the move and what New York can learn from the state and Moritz Kraemer , scholar and researcher of epidemiology at Oxford University, joins to discuss what we know about how the virus has spread worldwide.