About this episode
Should parents teach kids to be defiant? In this Facing the Dark episode, Wayne and Dr. Kathy respond to a growing cultural narrative that suggests children need to practice defiance in order to become confident, assertive adults. Together they unpack the difference between healthy self-advocacy and arrogant rebellion, explaining why confidence doesn't come from saying "no" loudly, but from knowing when and how to speak with wisdom. Drawing on biblical insight, the Five Core Needs, and real parenting examples, this conversation helps parents guide kids toward courage, discernment, and self-efficacy rooted in truth, not impulse.