Guest: Lindy Ruff; Dubois/Laine deal, surprise teams, Leafs maturing, NYR & Oilers struggles

Dan and Shawn are joined by New Jersey Devils head coach Lindy Ruff (19:00). Ruff talks about his team's good start, development of Jack Hughes, what he likes out of PK Subban's game, Ty Smith's emergence, Corey Crawford's surprise retirement, coaching younger players & adapting to the divisional schedule. At the start of the episode (2:00), the guys talk about the Dubois/Laine trade, the Maple Leafs showing signs of maturing, the Oilers poor goaltending and the Canucks shaky start. They close the episode discussing the struggles of Alexis Lafreniere and the reasons for his lack of production (45:00). They also debate the sustainability of the LA Kings and Anaheim Ducks and talk about the wagons that the Avs and Golden Knights are.