The Engagement: America's Quarter-Century Struggle Over Same-Sex Marriage

Melissa and Kate talk with Sasha Issenberg , journalist and political science professor at UCLA, about his book The Engagement: America's Quarter-Century Struggle Over Same-Sex Marriage . Issenberg offers a glimmer of hope about the lasting legality of same-sex marriage, even in light of Justice Clarence Thomas’s concurring opinion in Dobbs . But he warns about the dangerous exemptions that could be carved out through 303 Creative , which the Supreme Court has yet to issue an opinion on, but foreshadowed in its Hobby Lobby opinion. Buy your own copy of The Engagement: America's Quarter-Century Struggle Over Same-Sex Marriage (use STRICT10 for 10% off!) Read an excerpt of The Engagement: America's Quarter-Century Struggle Over Same-Sex Marriage Listen to our episode recapping arguments in 303 Creative v. Elenis Get tickets for STRICT SCRUTINY LIVE – The Bad Decisions Tour 2025! 3/6/26 – San Francisco 3/7/26 – Los Angeles Learn more: http://crooked.com/events Order your copy of Leah's book, Lawless: How the Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, Fringe Theories, and Bad Vibes Follow us on Instagram , Threads , and Bluesky Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.