97. Animal-Based vs. Plant-Based, a friendly debate with Joel Fuhrman, MD

Joel Fuhrman, M.D. is a board-certified family physician, seven-time New York Times best-selling author and internationally recognized expert on nutrition and natural healing. He specializes in preventing and reversing disease through nutritional methods. Dr. Fuhrman is the President of the Nutritional Research Foundation and on the faculty of Northern Arizona University, Health Sciences division. Time stamps: 0:10:39 Podcast begins 0:11:54 Dr. Joel Fuhrman's story 0:17:39 Question for Dr. Joel Fuhrman: what do you believe causes chronic disease in humans? 0:24:19 Why I have a problem with epidemiological studies 0:28:59 Question for Dr. Joel Fuhrman: can you present an interventional study that shows an increased consumption of meat in the human diet resulted in negative outcomes? 0:31:29 Increased lean red meat intake does not elevate markers of oxidative stress and inflammation in humans 0:33:39 Dr. Joel Fuhrman's stance on epidemiological studies 0:39:54 Meat intake and cause-specific mortality: a pooled analysis of Asian prospective cohort studies 0:40:39 Possible protective effect of milk, meat, and fish for cerebrovascular disease mortality in Japan 0:41:29 Beef tallow increases apoptosis and decreases aberrant crypt foci formation relative to soybean oil in rat colon 0:42:59 Effects of plant and animal high protein diets on immune-inflammatory biomarkers: a 6-week intervention trial 0:44:34 Isocaloric diets high in animal or plant protein reduce liver fat and inflammation in individuals with type 2 diabetes 0:46:09 Dr. Joel Fuhrman's response: The effect of high salt consumption in Asian populations and how this affects the results in Asian studies 0:54:19 Dr. Joel Fuhrman: Keto diets are okay short term, but dangerous long term 0:55:44 Dr. Joel Fuhrman: "A 15-year study shows those who eat more meat have increased risk of cancer and death" source of this study was not presented 0:57:44 My response: there are no interventional studies that show meat in replace of plant proteins show a decrease in health outcomes in humans 1:00:29 Health promoting phytonutrients are higher in grass-fed meat and milk 1:04:39 Comparative fracture risk in vegetarians and nonvegetarians in EPIC-Oxford study 1:05:04 Partial replacement of animal proteins with plant proteins for 12 weeks accelerates bone turnover amount in healthy adults <