S02.07: That's Spelled J-E-H-N: Dark Lover

Woof, you guys. Woof. This week we’re talking a whole different kind of Vampires (not a single one chained to a radiator…we love u, Conrad) — with JR Ward’s Dark Lover — the first in the Black Dagger Brotherhood Series! We’re talking a LOT this week about toxic masculinity, about the world post 9/11, about what we expect from heroines, about the entire BDB series, and about what the heck is going on in these books. We also get all the titles wrong, as usual. Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast in your favorite podcasting platform — and while you’re there, please leave us a like or a review! In two weeks, we’re getting more current! The read is Sarah’s Pick, Sierra Simone’s Priest, which is an erotic romance in first-person hero POV, featuring a priest and an exotic dancer (NB: She is not Catholic). If sex in church is your concern, maybe skip this one, but also know that there’s a lot fo religious allegory in here that is fascinating and brilliant. Get it at Amazon , Barnes & Noble , Apple Books , Kobo or your local indie . Show Notes JR Ward's first pen name was Jessica Bird . Despite Jen's joke about Proust , she's never actually read him. Some of the most famous vampire books in fiction were Anne Rice's Interview with a Vampire and Queen of the Damned . And let's not forget Twilight . In romance, you should check out the Argeneau series by Lynsay Sands, or any number of books by Jeaniene Frost . Nalini Singh's Guild Hunters series has a vampire hunter. Sherrilyn Kenyon also has lots of books in this category. In urban fantasy, of course there was the Sookie Stackhouse series, and it's TV adaptation True Blood . In fact, the 90s were full of vampires in the movies and on TV: Keanu Reeves in Bram Stoker's Dracula , Buffy the Vampire Slayer , and if you've never seen it, the opening scene from Blade that Jen mentioned. Sarah would like you to consider the fact that very few people know who Mary Shelley is, but Francis Ford Coppola made a blockbuster movie with Bram Stoker's name in the actual title because patriarchy is a helluva drug. Is it romance or urban fantasy ? The JR Ward interview was in Louisville Magazine. The Wicked Wallflowers interviewed JR Ward and it's just terrific. Jen read all the RITAs, and she reviewed Consumed in the romantic suspense category and Dearest Ivie in the paranormal category. All about sawed-off shotguns . Sarah said John Michael, but OF COURSE she meant John Matthew. Maybe you should read Lover John Matthew and Xhex . Mary Bly's article about the Black Dagger Brotherhood appears in New Approaches to Popular Romance Fiction . The Lessers as Incels . Caldwell is like the world of Gotham ... and why it seems so nihilistic . Beth and Wrath's story continues in The King , or as we like to call it here at Fated Mates, Lover Wrath and Beth Part 2. It's Lover Phury and Cormia , and then Lover Rhevenge and Ehlena , and Lover Quinn and Blay . The Susan Faludi book Sarah mentioned is called The Terror Dream: Myth and Misogyny in an Insecure America . We don't think Beth is a Mary Sue , and JR Ward doesn't either. A guide to the waves of feminism . A ferrari doesn't weight 2000 tons . A ton is 2000 pounds . Wellsie is maybe a stand in for Smith vs. Wellesley . Jen was reading Native Son in college when her professor told her blindness is always a symbol . Oedipus blinded himself , and oracles are seers are often blind . Daredevil is blind and can still kick your ass . The other most famous Blind King Jen could find is in Assassin's Creed . Next up is Priest by Sierra Simone. The Rest For even more info about this episode, and to explore everything Fated Mates has to offer, visit: https://fatedmates.net/episodes/2019/10/20/s027-dark-lover If you wish you had six more days in a week of people talking about romance, may we suggest joining our Patreon? Aside from an additional episode every month you get access to our Discord, where other romance readers are talking about books they love (and many other things!) all the time. It’s so fun! Learn more about the Patreon and go join those cool people who love romance as much as you do at patreon.com/fatedmates . Beyond your favorite podcast app , you can find us on Instagram , Threads , Blue Sky , Tumblr , and probably some other places, too, if you look hard enough. If you've never listened to our Stop Book Banning episode , there's no better time than now.