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Joe Biden and his chief of staff have negotiated a massive fiscal stimulus package before. How should the incoming administration regard the 2009 Recovery Act -- as a blueprint, or a cautionary tale? Guest: Mike Grunwald , senior writer for Politico Magazine and author of The New New Deal: The Hidden Story of Change in the Obama Era . Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices