About this episode
How Venezuelans reached a breaking point, and how a team of savvy politicians orchestrated the break. No one expected the greatest threat of a proxy war to come out of South America -- right? Guests: Ana Vanessa Herrero , reporter for the New York Times. Josh Keating , senior editor of foreign affairs for Slate. Tell us what you think by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or sending an email to whatnext@slate.com . Follow us on Instagram for updates on the show. Podcast production by Mary Wilson and Jayson De Leon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices