About this episode
After Charlie Kirk’s assassination, conspiracy theories and divisions multiplied on the right. On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross talks to Andrew Kolvet, a Turning Point USA spokesperson and executive producer of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” about what happens to a movement when its charismatic leader is gone, what it’s like to be the target of conspiracy theories, and whether there are any issues unifying conservatism now. 01:32 - Andrew’s friendship with Charlie Kirk 05:18 - Turning Point U.S.A.’s activism and impact 11:16 - Charlie Kirk’s assassination and its aftermath 18:42 - The divisions on the right start with conspiracy theories 38:28 - “Can the right hold together on Israel?” 41:19 - Stress-testing the cohesion on the right 56:08 - The Erika Kirk/Trump contrast (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Please subscribe to our YouTube Channel, Interesting Times with Ross Douthat . Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher . For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.