Elizabeth Shaffer & Lizzy Brockhoff: Things Are Not Perfect

This week, Rebecca sits down with Elizabeth Shaffer & Lizzy Brockhoff, co-founders of MASSE, a shopping app with a zero tolerance policy for any paid-for or sponsored recommendations. They talk about the challenges of creating a new product, how life is just one big juggling act, and the idea of a praise sandwich. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices