About this episode
Elise and Steve talk to "TrumpNation" author Tim O’Brien about how he beat Donald Trump in a $5 billion lawsuit. Tim talks about what it's like to watch Trump when he's caught lying under oath. They discuss the Trump bankruptcies, the Russia connections, and what's really behind Donald Trump's deep and dangerous insecurities. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/words-matter . See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices