About this episode
“It’s interesting that we became enthusiastic about ASL in the process of teaching it to a population that couldn’t benefit from it.” Mike tells Sarah about a very special ape and the very problematic humans around her. Digressions include video dating, "Biography" and the terrible terrible inventor of the telephone. We start with a SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT about the future of the show. Both co-hosts understand the difference between chimps, monkeys and apes but occasionally misspeak. For a transcript of this episode (Thanks Andrea !), click here or copy-paste: https://rottenindenmark.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/YWA-Koko-the-Gorilla-Transcript.pdf Support us: Subscribe on Patreon Donate on Paypal Buy cute merch Where else to find us: Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads Mike's other show, Maintenance Phase Links! Marcus Perlman, the researcher Mike interviewed! "Human and Animal Cognition: Continuity and Discontinuity" "In Memorium: Koko, A Remarkable Gorilla" "What Do Talking Apes Really Tell Us?" “Monkey Business” “Talk to the Animals,” the 1980 Omni article “Animal Bodies, Human Minds: Ape, Dolphin, and Parrot Language Skills” 1979 New York Magazine article on Herb Terrace “The Last Distinction?” “The Sad Twilight of Koko The Gorilla and Her 'Mother'” “Why Koko Can’t Talk” “ The Other Side of Silence: Sign Language and the Deaf Community in America” “The Education of Koko” Support the show