About this episode
August 22, 2025; 6pm: The Justice Department has released transcripts and audio of an interview with Ghislaine Maxwell, the imprisoned former associate of Jeffrey Epstein. Maxwell says she never saw President Trump engage in inappropriate behavior and denies the existence of a "client list." MSNBC's Antonia Hylton reports, and is joined by renowned civil rights attorney Nancy Erika Smith, New York Times Magazine legal writer Emily Bazelon and others to break it down. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.