BONUS: Jonathan Franzen talks to Ari Melber about fiction, family and history

In this bonus episode, MSNBC's Ari Melber sits down with Novelist Jonathan Franzen at the 2024 Rancho Mirage Writers Festival. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.