BONUS: Extended Conversation with Bob Woodward on Trump's Epstein 'mess'

BONUS: Pulitzer Prize–winner Bob Woodward joins MSNBC’s Ari Melber for an extended interview, discussing President Trump’s Epstein scandal, the independence of the Supreme Court in the MAGA era, Trump’s ties to Russian leader Vladimir Putin, and the influence of billionaires on the news media. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.