BONUS: "Stomach-turning": MAGA riot’s confederate flag rebuked by Fran Lebowitz

Writer Fran Lebowitz applies her iconic candor and wit to the insurrection, voter suppression, feminism, the news media, comedy — and why she says she’s not a pessimist, despite her reputation— in this wide-ranging interview, a new installment of The Summit Series with Ari Melber, featuring discussions with leaders at the summit of their fields. The series debuted in 2021 with Melber’s interview with Bill Gates. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.