About this episode
September 12, 2025; 6pm: Officials have identified the suspect accused of fatally shooting conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Plus, MSNBC’s Ari Melber reports on new Epstein revelations and President Trump’s deployment of the National Guard. Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist Bob Woodward also joins for an extended conversation. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.