#156 | The Virtual Sherpa on Peak Bagging 13ers and 14ers, Responsibly Promoting Trails, and Video Guiding

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, brought to you by RTIC, we are joined by Mickey aka The Virtual Sherpa. The Virtual Sherpa runs a successful website and youtube channel dedicated to sharing tips, trail overviews, and more from some of his favorite trails around Colorado and the greater Southwest. We chat about what some of the most underrated 13,000 ft peaks are in Colorado, and why they might be even better than many of the state's 14ers, some of his favorite hikes without hoards of people, his philosophy on gatekeeping and responsibly promoting trails, and much more. We wrap the show with a backpacking trip in Zion National Park that deserves to be on your bucket list, a Q&A touching on a range of subjects including but not limited to good hiking spots for late fall, what life is like with a budding toddler, the scent of tent sex, and more. RTIC Outdoors: Use code "backpacker" for 10% off orders over $50 at rticoutdoors.com . Gossamer Gear: Use code "littledonkeygirl" for 15% off at gossamergear.com . Organifi: Use code "backpacker" for 20% off at organifi.com/backpacker . Point6: Use code "point6trek" for 30% off at point6.com . [divider] Interview with Mickey aka "Virtual Sherpa" The Virtual Sherpa Website The Virtual Sherpa Youtube Channel The Virtual Sherpa Instagram Time stamps & Questions 00:04:40 - QOTD: At what age do people start consuming more Tums than Starbursts? 00:09:19 - Introducing Mickey aka "Virtual Sherpa" 00:09:37 - Mickey's Shit Story 00:12:42 - Tell us your backpacking and peak bagging resume. 00:14:30 - Discussion about trail and ultrarunning. 00:15:33 - What's harder, training for an Ironman or training for a 100-mile run? 00:19:29 - How fast are you? 00:20:55 - Give us some background on how the website started. 00:22:39 - Tell us about your preference with 14ers versus 13ers. 00:24:32 - Tell us why you loved living in Chicago if you hate people. 00:26:20 - Tell us about the 13er you did over Memorial Day? 00:27:15 - Fuck Mary Kill: peak bagging, CT section hikes/backpacking, trail running 00:28:40 - Tell us about the evolution of the website and Youtube channel. 00:31:32 - How do you feel about the conflict between exposing trails via the internet and avoiding people while hiking? 00:34:23 - Why does someone need to work hard to find a spot? 00:35:50 - Discussion about keeping spots secret, public land, and gatekeeping. 00:41:22 - How would you describe your audience and what are the most common questions you get? 00:44:10 - What are your top 3 favorite 14ers and top 3 least favorite 14ers? 00:46:58 - What are your favorite and least favorite 13ers? 00:48:35 - What are your top 3 secret spots? 00:51:20 - Discussion about fear and anxiety about the mountains. 00:53:19 - Do you have a preference between the blog or the Youtube channel? 00:55:52 - Have you asked your friend why there's a story before every recipe? 00:57:21 - What is a border-crossing expedition? 00:58:43 - Do you have any highlights from exploring Utah? 01:02:23 - Discussion about National Parks, crowds, and timing hikes. 01:07:34 - Discussion about Canyonlands. 01:09:13 - What are your big 3 for a typical backpacking trip? 01:12:22 - What's your typical camera setup? 01:14:40 - Tell us about your dog, taking your dog on adventures, and tips for hiking with dogs. 01:20:34 - Anything else do you want to share? 01:22:14 - Thank you! SEGMENTS Trek Propaganda The Zion Traverse: Hiking Off the Beaten Path in Utah's Most Popular National Park by Katie Kommer Q&A 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross . Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)! Find us on Spotify , Stitcher , and Google Play . Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek , Chaunce , Badger , and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok. A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Jason Lawrence, Christopher Marshburn, Sawyer Products, Brad and Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Patrick Cianciolo, Paul Packman Sealy, Matt Soukup, Jason Snailer, and Greg Mac. A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Liz Seger, Cynthia Voth, Emily Brown, Dcnerdlet, Jeff LaFranier, Peter Ellenberg, Jacob Northrup, Peter Leven.