Trump says Epstein 'stole' underage victim from him when she worked at Mar-a-Lago spa

Guests: Tim Miller, Norm Eisen, Liz Oyer, Sen. Chris Van Hollen, Lisa Rubin The president says Jeffrey Epstein "stole" his teenage employee and Epstein's accomplice demands immunity. Tonight: why Trump's answers are getting sketchier and what we know about a possible pardon. Then, is the Senate about to give Donald Trump's defense attorney a lifetime seat on the bench? Want more of Chris? Download and follow his podcast, “Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes podcast” wherever you get your podcasts. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.