‘Say it with your chest’: 2028 Dem hopefuls face early tests of bravery

Guests: Sigrid McCawley, Steve Liesman, Ilya Somin, Faiz Shakir, Alex Wagner As the family of Virginia Giuffre speaks out, my interview with Giuffre’s longtime attorney on the spiraling Trump-Epstein scandal. Then, the last minute legal fight to stop Trump's tariffs. And as Kamala Harris drops a book and heads to Colbert, how to think about the next leader of Democrats, whoever that may be. Want more of Chris? Download and follow his podcast, “Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes podcast” wherever you get your podcasts. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.