Trump now openly embracing Project 2025 despite campaign denials

October 3, 2025; 8pm: Tonight, the shutdown, Project 2025, and the biggest lie of the 2024 campaign. Then, as the Trump-Epstein statue returns, an exclusive interview with the Congresswoman-elect whose vote could unlock the Epstein files. And meet the MAGA billionaires taking over TikTok and the CBS News. Want more of Chris? Download and follow his podcast, “Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes podcast” wherever you get your podcasts. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.